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New New Manager Poll (The Lets Get It Right This Time Edition)

Who Do You Want Then?

  • Poch

    Votes: 58 43.3%
  • Gallardo

    Votes: 7 5.2%
  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • Enrique

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Carrick

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Kompany

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 23 17.2%
  • Tuchel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 24 17.9%
  • Slot

    Votes: 17 12.7%

  • Total voters
    134
My initial expectation is that it'll be harder to 'sell' us to Nagelsmann than to Slot.
And I don't think we need a manager who doesn't very quickly view us as the right move for him as well as us seeing him as the right candidate.
Of course, Nagelsmann may well see our situation as one that IS right for him, having just been burned by a huge club with politics and big names attached.

De Zerbi may be open to a quick move and might not yet have huge feelings of loyalty to Brighton but will likely be very expensive - the revelation that Chelsea had to cough up over £20 million to take Potter and his team is a fairly strong indicator that we would need to fork over significant wedge to get his replacement out of there.

Potter had extended his contract (he was on a 5 year when we looked at him, IIRC) and upped his pay. De Zerbi is on £1.5M/yr with a 4 year deal, so won't be really expensive.
 
It really feels - again - that this appointment is an absolutely crucial decision, and it's ironic that Levy's attempt to appoint someone else to take control of the recruitment has backfired because he recruited the wrong person. I have been privy, in the past, to some fairly reliable inside info and some of the managerial appointments were apparently recognised to be mistakes almost immediately, which is incredibly damning.

I'm in agreement with many of the posters on here that we must prioritise a manager who wants to be here, but that alone isn't enough: it has to be for the right reasons. A couple of former managers 'wanted to be here', but that was because they received eye-watering pay rises that set them up for life, succeed or fail. We need to identify a manager whose ambition is to turn this club into what we are now set-up to be: a perennial serious contender for trophies and a regular participant in the CL. In other words, what we would have been this year if we hadn't decided to squander a squad containing some of the best attacking players in European football by playing with excessive caution, and trying to fit our players to the system rather than vice versa.

Those managers exist; identifying the best of them will be the usual lottery. Given recent history, Daniel must be due for one of his occasional correct punts.
 
Not a huge ego and gets on with people.

Does he also have presence? It's obviously a balance, but Poch and Jol say were nice, generous individuals, but were also very much top dog from the start.

Whereas Potter has walked into the Chelsea dressing room and the squad have gone, 'who are you', 'why should we listen to you'.

We don't quite have a 'show me your medals' dressing room mentality, but with Kane, Lloris and Dier etc. there are some big personalities that need to be won over by someone impressive
 
No convinced it does. Do Chelsea pay their managers any more than we do?

If he’s going there then there’s only one reason. They throw money at everything. Not all of it sticks but it has made them more successful than they have had any right to otherwise be.
 
But on the flip side those deals are not all cash up front
And we have the £50m that was never drawn down on available potentially (subject to caveats)
No but neither were the ones we did over the last few years. Without CL football I can't see us having much additional budget and if we miss Europa League football then we may have almost none. Maybe we can do some more loan with obligation deals that Paratici seems to specialise in.
 
No, Potter was on less than any of Poch, Jose or Conte, but they give £700M in players in a season and they are such a merry go round (way worse than us at hiring/firing) that no one even cares if you got fired there (Potter's reputation probably the big exception)
So if Nagelsmann accepted the Chelsea job instead of the Spurs job it wouldn't indicate that he is only interested in the £££s then?
 
Potter had extended his contract (he was on a 5 year when we looked at him, IIRC) and upped his pay. De Zerbi is on £1.5M/yr with a 4 year deal, so won't be really expensive.
I think I read somewhere that it would cost upwards of £15m in compensation to Brighton to get De Zerbi.
 
Does he also have presence? It's obviously a balance, but Poch and Jol say were nice, generous individuals, but were also very much top dog from the start.

Whereas Potter has walked into the Chelsea dressing room and the squad have gone, 'who are you', 'why should we listen to you'.

We don't quite have a 'show me your medals' dressing room mentality, but with Kane, Lloris and Dier etc. there are some big personalities that need to be won over by someone impressive
I think thar would say a lot about the dressing room
And I doubt the Chelsea players who were there thought that as his Brighton team outplayed Chelsea when the he were a manger by Tuchel
It’s possible with the new guys but then they know no one there anyway
 
Does he also have presence? It's obviously a balance, but Poch and Jol say were nice, generous individuals, but were also very much top dog from the start.

Whereas Potter has walked into the Chelsea dressing room and the squad have gone, 'who are you', 'why should we listen to you'.

We don't quite have a 'show me your medals' dressing room mentality, but with Kane, Lloris and Dier etc. there are some big personalities that need to be won over by someone impressive
I don't think that happened at Chelsea, I just think it is really, really hard for any manager to have to manage such a huge squad and try to integrate so many young new players, especially with several of them coming in from overseas.
 
If he’s going there then there’s only one reason. They throw money at everything. Not all of it sticks but it has made them more successful than they have had any right to otherwise be.
If Nagelsmann had a job offer at Spurs and Chelsea with roughly equal pay offered at both clubs, he would likely go to whichever club he thought would give him the highest chance of winning trophies.
 
I don't think that happened at Chelsea, I just think it is really, really hard for any manager to have to manage such a huge squad and try to integrate so many young new players, especially with several of them coming in from overseas.
35 man squad foo
How do arrange training with that many players
 
So if Nagelsmann accepted the Chelsea job instead of the Spurs job it wouldn't indicate that he is only interested in the £££s then?
No
It would show an interesting change of tact for him
He has so far gone to clubs that were stable and he could bring in his own element of control
There is none of that at Chelsea currently so work for him to do
 
So if Nagelsmann accepted the Chelsea job instead of the Spurs job it wouldn't indicate that he is only interested in the £££s then?

I never said it was the reason .. that said

If he goes to Chelsea, I suspect he will rinse them for more than we would be willing to pay and on a longer contract (so he will get a record payoff at some point). I'm assuming the money will continue to flow but there must be questions there as well

Chelsea's squad is at a place where you could probably sell 15 players and buy two strikers and have a really competitive squad. Ours still needs work
 
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