Keep St George in my heart

[punk_is_back`]

An English day? Not a chance. Would "upset" too many of the foreigners that now call this country home. I say fudge em!!!!!

I don't know who you're speaking for? I'm a naturalised Brit and Certainly not upset by St Georges day. In fact if It wasn't a monday I would be having a few beers. Don't listen to what they daily mail tells you, not all immigrants are anti-English a lot of us intergrate quite well into the community. Then again maybe I think i've intergrated well because i'm Christian; I can't really speak for muslim immigrants. And Yes NW5pur we should have an extra armed forces day, so many lives and families are changed because of loved ones injured or lost out in the middle east.

 

[thingonaspring]

was that yesterday? i must have left my giveafudgeometer at home or something.

 

[southstand1882]

was that yesterday? i must have left my giveafudgeometer at home or something.

Invented in England, no doubt

F*ck we are amazing

 

[yiddo2786]

An English day? Not a chance. Would "upset" too many of the foreigners that now call this country home. I say fudge em!!!!!

Really? Pretty much every immigrant I've ever met is perfectly happy for everyone else to celebrate whatever they want.

 

[NW5pur]

Really? Pretty much every immigrant I've ever met is perfectly happy for everyone else to celebrate whatever they want.

it's a vicious cycle for which the macarons only have themselves to blame:

macarons with racist far right agenda celebrate day
normal people with more than one brain cell want nothing to do with day as they don't want to associate themselves with macarons
macarons complain that no one celebrates day and predictably blame immigrants
normal people offended by racist unfounded accusation and further disassociate themselves from day
cycle repeats

 

[Steed Train]

it's a vicious cycle for which the macarons only have themselves to blame:

macarons with racist far right agenda celebrate day
normal people with more than one brain cell want nothing to do with day as they don't want to associate themselves with macarons
macarons complain that no one celebrates day and predictably blame immigrants
normal people offended by racist unfounded accusation and further disassociate themselves from day
cycle repeats

Dunno why people get so bothered about it really. They just get arsey because people go out for St Patricks Day but not St Georges day. Thats got nothing to do with people celebrating St Patricks day though, just an awesome promotional campaign by guinness, no one actually gives a toss about St Patrick.

If we had a national beer in the same league as Guinness, I suspect that St Georges day would be on the map. I really couldn't give two monkeys about St George though

 

[edgey-the-yid]

it's a vicious cycle for which the macarons only have themselves to blame:

macarons with racist far right agenda celebrate day
normal people with more than one brain cell want nothing to do with day as they don't want to associate themselves with macarons
macarons complain that no one celebrates day and predictably blame immigrants
normal people offended by racist unfounded accusation and further disassociate themselves from day
cycle repeats

I have no far right agenda yet i have no problem whatsoever celebrating the day just coz those far right numpties try to use it as part of their argument doesnt put me off... Why should it?

 

[monkeybarry]

F*ck me, we really have tea bagged this planet

English Inventions - Sports

• Football - The rules as we know them today were established in 1848 at Cambridge University, Sheffield F.C. is acknowledged by The Football Association and FIFA as the world's first and oldest football club.[SUP][124][/SUP]
• Rugby - William Webb Ellis
• Cricket - the world's second-most popular sport can be traced back to the 13th century[SUP][125][/SUP]
• Tennis - widely known to have originated in England.[SUP][126][/SUP]
• Badminton - Modern rules of the game was launched in 1873 at the Badminton House after being imported from India by British soldiers.
• Boxing - England played a key role in the evolution of modern boxing. Boxing was first accepted as an Olympic sport in Ancient Greece in 688 BC
• Ice Hockey - a variant of Field Hockey invented by British soldiers based in Canada.
• Darts - a traditional pub game, the numbering layout was devised by Brian Gamlin
• Table-Tennis - was invented on the dinner tables of Britain as an indoor version of tennis
• Snooker - Invented by the British Army in India[SUP][127][/SUP]
• Ping pong - The game has its origins in England, in the 1880s
• Bowls - has been traced to 13th century England[SUP][128][/SUP]
• Field hockey - the modern game grew from English public schools in the early 19th century
• Netball - the sport emerged from early versions of women's basketball, at Madame ?ûsterberg's College in England during the late 1890s.[SUP][129][/SUP]
• Rounders - the game originates in England most likely from an older game known as stool ball
• The Oxford and Cambridge Boat Race, the first race was in 1829 on the River Thames in London [SUP][130][/SUP]
• Thoroughbred Horseracing - Was first developed in 17th and 18th century England
• Polo - its roots began in Persia as a training game for cavalry units, the formal codification of the rules of modern Polo as a sport were established in 19th century England
• The format of Modern Olympics - William Penny Brookes
• Modern Rock Climbing - Walter Parry Haskett Smith (1859ÔÇô1946) is considered the Father of Rock Climbing.
• The first Paralympic games competition were held in England in 1948 - Ludwig Guttmann[SUP][131][/SUP]
• oldest rowing competition in existence and oldest rowing race in the world: Doggett's Coat and Badge annual race on the Thames since 1715
• oldest sporting competition in the world: The Antient Silver Arrow Archery competition known as the Scorton Arrow as it was originally held in Scorton, Yorkshire. It was first shot for in 1673.[SUP][132][/SUP]
• oldest cricket festival (and probably oldest sporting festival) in the world: Canterbury Cricket Week founded in 1842 [SUP][132][/SUP]
• Lonsdale belt: oldest boxing belt in the world[SUP][133][/SUP]
• oldest running race in the world - the Crick Run started in 1836 at rugby school

which otherwise translates to;

The Victorians were great innovators, especially when it cam to stealing sport from other countries and because of our imperial standing at the time declared "theses are now the official rules".

Since WWII however the list is rather sparse..................

History - good (although greatly tinged with theft, rape, genocide etc)
Present - MOR

 

[Nutter-Naylor]

which otherwise translates to;

The Victorians were great innovators, especially when it cam to stealing sport from other countries and because of our imperial standing at the time declared "theses are now the official rules".

Since WWII however the list is rather sparse..................

History - good (although greatly tinged with theft, rape, genocide etc)
Present - MOR

You forgot the slave trade. My guilty concience over these issues wont let me sleep at night.
England & the English - the root of all evil :lol:

 

[NW5pur]

I have no far right agenda yet i have no problem whatsoever celebrating the day just coz those far right numpties try to use it as part of their argument doesnt put me off... Why should it?

I’m not saying only the far right celebrate st. georges day or that there’s anything wrong with ‎celebrating, i’m saying much of the population may be apathetic towards st georges day because of ‎the far right. ‎

Let me give you a personal example, i was walking through covent garden a couple of years ago on st. ‎georges day, (bear in mind covent garden is a big tourism hot spot) and there were a few pubs ‎overflowing with ugly, fat, skinhead blokes with brick tattoos, draped in st. georges cross’s chanting ‎England songs at passers by in quite an intimidating fashion. i’m not saying there’s anything wrong ‎with that, it is a free country, however far from feeling pride in my national day i actually felt a bit ‎ashamed to be English, the tourists looked perplexed and a bit scared.‎

This is quite an interesting read on national pride in the UK - http://www.britishfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BritishFutureSceptredIsle.pdf

Interesting that 24% of English people associate our flag with racism compared to 10% and 7% in Wales ‎and Scotland.‎

Don’t get me wrong though, i’m proud to be English, i don’t mind having a national english day and ‎generally speaking i’m a supporter of fun! so give me a day off in the summer, call it something ‎relevant and make it inclusive and i’ll get involved. st georges day in it’s present guise, couldn’t really ‎give two bricks!‎

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

I’m not saying only the far right celebrate st. georges day or that there’s anything wrong with ‎celebrating, i’m saying much of the population may be apathetic towards st georges day because of ‎the far right. ‎

Let me give you a personal example, i was walking through covent garden a couple of years ago on st. ‎georges day, (bear in mind covent garden is a big tourism hot spot) and there were a few pubs ‎overflowing with ugly, fat, skinhead blokes with brick tattoos, draped in st. georges cross’s chanting ‎England songs at passers by in quite an intimidating fashion. i’m not saying there’s anything wrong ‎with that, it is a free country, however far from feeling pride in my national day i actually felt a bit ‎ashamed to be English, the tourists looked perplexed and a bit scared.‎

This is quite an interesting read on national pride in the UK - http://www.britishfuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BritishFutureSceptredIsle.pdf

Interesting that 24% of English people associate our flag with racism compared to 10% and 7% in Wales ‎and Scotland.‎

Don’t get me wrong though, i’m proud to be English, i don’t mind having a national english day and ‎generally speaking i’m a supporter of fun! so give me a day off in the summer, call it something ‎relevant and make it inclusive and i’ll get involved. st georges day in it’s present guise, couldn’t really ‎give two bricks!‎

I kind of agree they have taken the idea from St Patricks day and think that is all it means to be English.

Think the government could do things like tell English Heritage and other historcal attractions and gardens that they could keep all the money they make on St Georges Day without having to pay tax, then you could get families going out to castles and other type attractions and learning about the history of England, maybe in the schools they could do lessons on traditional english meals(including curry ) and in the eveningss the BBC instead of hating the country could put on shakespeare plays followed by some more modern english shows.

England should not be about skin heads and nutters we have an opportunity to try and take it back for everyone to enjoy whether they were born here on not and if done properly could attract tourism beatrix potter, wordsworth, coleridge, jane austin and charles dingdongins are as big tourist pulls as the Royal family tourism is an area of the economy that is often neglected in my opinon.

Get Theatres to put on shows by english writers give councils grants to put on battle of the bands in local parks featuring songs by english song writers, make them family days include the whole community have sporting events. Lots we can do to promote england and make everyone feel something for the country.

All that said i just do not feel it is in our nature to really celebrate things, would be good to bring it back from the far right though, fudgers set any slighty right minded political person back 50 years whenever they open their mouths.

 

[monkeybarry]

You forgot the slave trade. My guilty concience over these issues wont let me sleep at night.
England & the English - the root of all evil :lol:

invented that too :-"