Saying no manager would do better is no more of an argument than someone saying every manager in the league could do better.
Just pure waffle, come back when you've got an actual argument other than "he's Jose Mourinho"
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Jose Mourinho - SACKED
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Saying no manager would do better is no more of an argument than someone saying every manager in the league could do better.
Just pure waffle, come back when you've got an actual argument other than "he's Jose Mourinho"
126m in two windows with no significant outgoings
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tottenham-hotspur/alletransfers/verein/148
Gazza
Nick Barmby
£68 Mil spent by mourinho.
Come back to you when all i have is "Hes Mourinho" ... come back to me when you stop throwing your toys out. You have yet to answer any questions about your "Solutions". The fact that you tried to suggest that the signings of Ndombele and Lo Celso and others have been down to him is rediculous as they were brought in by Poch.
Now Ive said it and ill say it again, its down to the core group of players especially defensive players having a lack of concentration. I would argure the majority of Mourinhos signings have been great. He has got Ndombele looking like a world class player. He has got Kane and Son playing in tune. The other players have not turned up.
So come on tell me who can turn this squad around. You cant and have not coz you just love a moan looking at your posts. You cannot even agree with facts when they are in front of you.
We have not been alive in this many competitions this time of the year for GHod knows how long. Please enlighten us as to when we last were this competitive.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Generally teams need to win something to then win bigger things
That’s why Jose and pep take the league cup seriously
I’m not saying it’s a big trophy but it’s a step and it’s something to build from potentially unless we pull the rug and start again
Big teams win trophies and due to the way the calender works the League Cup is the first one that comes along - it's nothing more than that.
Klopp won the CL first with Liverpool and Ranieri won the league first with Leicester off the top of my head.
If either of you are suggesting the big trophies Pep and Jose won wouldn't have come if they didn't first win the league cup then I don't really know what to say.
Klopp won the CL first with Liverpool and Ranieri won the league first with Leicester off the top of my head.
If either of you are suggesting the big trophies Pep and Jose won wouldn't have come if they didn't first win the league cup then I don't really know what to say.
You are right Billy, the Chelsea’s and Emirates Marketing Project’s would have won other trophies regardless. But for our squad of players with the exception of Bale have won the square root of naff all? Would be a good starting block winning the League Cup, getting rid of that sexy tag for a while and something to build on, especially as it would mean we have beaten Emirates Marketing Project in a cup final who always take this tournament seriously....
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
I’d love us to win a trophy, even with that horrible Jose at the helm. And he can sneer that he made us winners again. After beating one decent team in the competition.
Arrivals 20/21 : 99m
27m on Bergwijn in the Jan window.
I didn't say Jose signed Ndombele - in response to the incorrect point you made about this still being the team which peaked at the CL final i pointed out that there has been over 200m spent on 13 players since then, summer window under Poch, winter and summer windows under Jose.
By way of comparison the 4 transfer windows across 14/15 and 15/16 season saw us bring in 12 players at a cost of around 110m and I'm pretty sure at that point people were not arguing that it was still AVB/Sherwoods team and needed a further overhaul.
The majority of Jose's (9) signings have been great have they? Ok, so why do we need to rebuild, why are we where we are if in addition to talent like Ndombele, Kane & Son we're adding 9 great sugnings and still looking as much a mid table team as we are a top 4 team?
The defense is Jose's - he signed a RB but elects to play Aurier instead. He signed Rodon and gave Dier and Alderweireld new contracts. He signed Regulion and gave Davies a new deal. You can't absolve Mourinho of the defense because the defense is his, he signed off on it, he okayed it, it's his.
I have answered your posts (with little in the way of acknowledgement btw) and have tried to respond to any questions posted in response to my criticism of Mourinho - i may be at the end of my tether with him but i don't see mysrlf as throwing the toys out of the pram, in fact I'd be directing that at you and your overly emotional response to the valid criticism sent his way.
Little point in listing names of managers who could do better - be easier to say who'd do worse out of current PL managers : Steve Bruce, Arteta. Had you asked me before he got sacked last week I'd have said Lampard too.
When were we last this competitive? This isn't competitive, this is playing in the secondary European competition and having plum draws in the domestic cups.
Gazza
Nick Barmby
No i think not even you are so silly to think that we are alluding to this. However many managers have used this cup as a spring board to breed some winning mentality. And that is from the managers themselves saying so.
And no just because its the first final to be played it does not mean that it is taken for granted that they will win it either.
Still waiting on your Mourinho solutions.
You can't claim something is a springboard to further success whilst disagreeing that it led to the success that came after in the instances mentioned. They're mutually exclusive you see...
And @harr1984 i agree winning league cup would be great but i think you're sorely mistaken if you think anyone outside of Spurs will think it's going to impact 'sexy' - that's here until we start winning the big boy prizes. EL might do it
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
From the football365 piece:
https://www.football365.com/news/16...erpool-firmino-alexander-arnold-mane-hojbjerg
Mourinho blamed “individual mistakes” for the concession of “completely avoidable” goals recently, and indeed after this game. He technically wasn’t wrong to do so. But he must also see that his particular brand of cautious, rigid, low-risk and low-line football puts undue pressure on a defence ill-equipped to implement it, especially against such an energetic and effervescent team. It requires absolute unbroken concentration and perfect decision-making for 90 minutes against an elite, if out-of-form, attack. That really isn’t a realistic expectation, and certainly not of this defence.
To continue to watch individual mistakes and bemoan said individual mistakes as the sole reason for your undoing instead of devising a system and plan that reduces the likelihood of them being made is baffling. Don’t blame the trousers if you keep bricking yourself.
https://www.football365.com/news/16...erpool-firmino-alexander-arnold-mane-hojbjerg
Mourinho blamed “individual mistakes” for the concession of “completely avoidable” goals recently, and indeed after this game. He technically wasn’t wrong to do so. But he must also see that his particular brand of cautious, rigid, low-risk and low-line football puts undue pressure on a defence ill-equipped to implement it, especially against such an energetic and effervescent team. It requires absolute unbroken concentration and perfect decision-making for 90 minutes against an elite, if out-of-form, attack. That really isn’t a realistic expectation, and certainly not of this defence.
To continue to watch individual mistakes and bemoan said individual mistakes as the sole reason for your undoing instead of devising a system and plan that reduces the likelihood of them being made is baffling. Don’t blame the trousers if you keep bricking yourself.
Gazza
Nick Barmby
Yes I would say the majority of Mourinhos players signed have been good. Surely you can see we need to clear the deadwood before bringing in better players to address key areas.
You mention the defence being okd by Mourinho, we tried to ship some out but not at Levys price and you know perfectly well we dam well try as any other club not to let players run their contracts down. Diers, Alderwieralds and Bens contracts were to expire this season. Mourinho was after Dias but got lumped with Rodon. How can you remotely say his defence is his. He has inherited the defence and the two additions made actually look like they ill improve it, the jury is out on doherty, but again he looked like a decent Levy special in the market.
No, its you are bored of Mourinho and cant see what he is doing even though Kane and Son are having brilliant personal performances, Ndombele looks like a world beater, sissoko i would argue is having his best year. The rest of the players are not up to scratch. I actually dont have time to trawl through the Ndombele thread but i can bet you were finger pointing and wanting to get rid of him too. Will you acknowledge Mourinho has helped him turn it around?
Ok lets say you are right Mourinho is guff, which of our players in the current set up can win us trophies and consistently perform? Coz according to you this is all the managers fault.
You cannot name even one manager who is available that can improve on where we are at. Name one.
You are even moaning that we had an easy run in the cups ffs. We are 8 points off the top midway through the season, in a cup final, and playing in two other competitions.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Square root of naff all?
Lloris - World Cup winning captain, French Cup
Hart - 2 Premier Leagues, FA Cup, 2 League Cups
Reguilon - Europa League last season
Davies - League Cup
Alderweireld - La Liga, 4 Dutch League titles, 2 Dutch Cups
Sanchez - Copa Libertadores
Aurier - African Cup of Nations, 2 French League titles, 3 French Cups, 3 French League Cups
Hojbjerg - 4 Bundesliga titles, 3 German Cups
Lo Celso - 2 French League titles, 2 French Cups, 2 French League Cups
Bergwijn - 3 Dutch titles
Moura - 5 French League titles, 3 French Cups, 5 French League Cups
Do you think winning a little League Cup is gonna make any difference to any of these guys?
Did Birmingham and Swansea push on after they won it?
In 2008 when we won it, we then won 5 in the next 26 games until the manager was sacked.
Arsenal win Cups all the time and never push on.
Gazza
Nick Barmby
Wait these players won things in other teams, how many of them were dominant in those teams? Djemba Djemba won an FA Cup with Man U ...
The whole idea is to build a squad and team that can win things here together. Are you saying that it wouldnt get a monkey off our back? The media other fans, our fans all make comments on the lack of silverware. Completely different scenarois to the teams that you have mentioned.
Its not an elite competition but its still a step in the right direction.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Have to say the Hojdjberg trophy haul for a player that played less than 30 games for Bayern is impressive
And city and Chelsea both pushed on under pep and Jose after winning it
StephenH
David Ginola
Amazing, a weak league helps, it's like playing for Celtic. Leicester (sulk) was impressive imho
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