glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Not very hard to do seeing as he went unbeaten and won three trophies in the season before he joined Chelsea, but for Spurs we should judge after longer then just 3 games
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Graham Roberts
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Not very hard to do seeing as he went unbeaten and won three trophies in the season before he joined Chelsea, but for Spurs we should judge after longer then just 3 games
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Yes, but as others are saying the timing and usefulness of it add pressure to Spurs and AVB right now. We don't need that, especially from somebody who should know not to add to the current pressure
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
So now we have a ex- player who is not happy with the situation which is one thing, however now we are supposed to believe that those who say nothing are also aginst AVB's appointment. :ross:
The Moonlit Knight
Banned
It's a valid point IMO, but not an easy to one to fix. Hoddle suffers from the same problem and I am a Hoddle fan. A charasmatic manager with limited tactical ability will almost always be superior in the English game to a manager with good tactical knowledge but a limited charisma.
AVB's problem is compounded in the English game that not only does he come across as lacking charisma (he may not do in his native tongue) but he can't make up for that with footballing inspiration either (at least Hoddle could do that). Can you imagine a professional footballer taking much notice of someone like AVB trying to coach them?!
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
The silence is deafening IMO. Gary Linekar was the only other ex Spurs player that I'm aware of that has spoken of the regime change, and IIRC, it wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
Like I said before, not everyone outside of GG is wowed by everything that Daniel Levy says or does, so there was always going to be skepticism with this appointment.
Sir Alex Fergusson
Arsene Wenger
Rafa Benitez
bastions of charisma
i find it telling that when it came to Redknapp you almost always ignored anyone who used his public persona as a reason to criticize him but here we are a little down the line and it is exactly AVB's public persona that you are using against him
you mean like all those professional footballers he coached at Porto with great success, yeah who would take much notice
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Adding an emotican to the end of every sentence doesn't make your arguement more compelling.
What Roberts and Linkear is reflective of what most people in the football world think of the decision to get AVB in.
What Roberts and Linkear is reflective of what most people in the football world think of the decision to get AVB in.
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Please clarify how he comes across as lacking charisma. Then give examples of non-British managers who have charisma. Please also give examples of said managers 'showing charisma.'
Hoddle's 'football inspiration' as far as I remember came in the form of lambasting players for not having as much skill as him. Isn't this one of the main reasons why many players hated playing for him?
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
My GHod you are serious arn't you, and i thought you were joking :ross:
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
Even if they do ... why does it matter? Only the players and staff currently employed by THFC matter one bit.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
He is consistently being compared to Harry. Particularly by a certain group who were big Harry fans and since hold it against AVB for having the audacity to take a vacant job...
And even if we were looking at comparing him against his time at Chelsea, is 3 games long enough to judge anything?
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Really?? So because the ABC of ex-Sours players haven't all tweeted/e-mailed/texted their approval of AVB that means they all despise the appointment?
Would you apply those conditions to when Redknapp, Ramos, Jol, Santini, Hoddle were appointed?
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
There you again, brilliant!
In your mind, everybody thinks the choice to give AVB the job is a masterstroke. You must have just been ignoring all the negative stuff written about him.
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Looking forward to the answers to this one....
milo
Jack L. Jones
I agree that it is too early to judge him but newspapers, websites and sports TV have content to find. Football is now reported in exactly the same way as celebrity gossip.
I don't see many differences between the way that AVB and Rodgers are being written about.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
And we are allowed the opinion of not liking it.
He is constantly digging at the club, something I dont like. Particularly as he sells himself as some sort of insider which I believe is damaging.
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Indeed, hence why Graham Roberts has not helped with the timing of his interview. He being an ex-pro should more than anyone else know you cannot judge after only 3 games AND thst newspapers, website etc have column inches to fill.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Where did I say despise?
And yes I would apply the same conditions to every manager/player.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
Not at all, but i also know that a lot of the negative stuff has been written/said by the ones who can not get over Redknapp being shown the door. And i still want to know how you know that all the ex-players ( who have said nothing) are against the AVB appointment, lets be honest you made that up did'nt you.