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Former Player Appreciation Thread

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Jenas got a bit of a going over on GMB. Thought he was quite articulate to be fair. The interviewer in green really wanted to trip him up and haul him over the coals.

In fairness to Jenas, he accepted he was wrong and seemed concerned for the impact on his family. At the end of the day, for me, the situation is very little to do with the public. It’s between him, his family and the women he messaged.

It seemed that he wanted the interview to be about how he dealt with the situation and where he goes from here which is the bit that could have been a help to other people but the interviewers never really got there.

I guess the temptation to moralise, grandstand and to try and humiliate people is easy and it’s what gets clicks and views so he maybe should have expected it. Poor journalism though.

Hope JJ moves on successfully. He’s clearly intelligent and articulate and although his behaviour was wrong, far worse things have been done by far worse people.
 
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When ever i see things about Jones it reminds me of the quote that Sir Bill Nic made. [We used to make sure the gates on the ground were closed when Cliff started on his runs during games as he would be off running down the High road.] :D
 
DeanoAustin said:
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Jenas got a bit of a going over on GMB. Thought he was quite articulate to be fair. The interviewer in green really wanted to trip him up and haul him over the coals.

In fairness to Jenas, he accepted he was wrong and seemed concerned for the impact on his family. At the end of the day, for me, the situation is very little to do with the public. It’s between him, his family and the women he messaged.

It seemed that he wanted the interview to be about how he dealt with the situation and where he goes from here which is the bit that could have been a help to other people but the interviewers never really got there.

I guess the temptation to moralise, grandstand and to try and humiliate people is easy and it’s what gets clicks and views so he maybe should have expected it. Poor journalism though.

Hope JJ moves on successfully. He’s clearly intelligent and articulate and although his behaviour was wrong, far worse things have been done by far worse people.
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Good conversation. If you do what he did, you shouldn’t be permanently condemned but you should absolutely get a grilling like he did. There’s thousands, millions of men doing what he did every week. They should always be reminded of the weight of what they’re doing to women and girls. They’re predators.

I don’t understand why he did that interview. It sounded like an appeal for people to follow him on social media. And GHod knows, the people most likely to follow him and engage are the ones who would be more likely to commit the same behaviour. Who else wants to listen to someone like him?
 
tommysvr said:
Good conversation. If you do what he did, you shouldn’t be permanently condemned but you should absolutely get a grilling like he did. There’s thousands, millions of men doing what he did every week. They should always be reminded of the weight of what they’re doing to women and girls. They’re predators.

I don’t understand why he did that interview. It sounded like an appeal for people to follow him on social media. And GHod knows, the people most likely to follow him and engage are the ones who would be more likely to commit the same behaviour. Who else wants to listen to someone like him?
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He’s chosen to go on tv and be interviewed for the first time so I think he could have expected some of what he got even if, essentially, it’s not really my business.

Taking Jenas at face value, he’s been at rock bottom which is a place many men find themselves and often through little or no fault of their own. He lost his job and he lost his family. Jenas was the architect of his own situation but his experience of dealing with that and hopefully coming back from it could help many men who find themselves in the same position for different reasons. That’s where the wasted opportunity was from the journalists.

If they were going to revisit the incidents that led to his sacking, they perhaps should have had him outline why he believes it’s wrong to hammer the message home that that sort of behaviour, particularly in the workplace, is unacceptable.

But the interviewers, particularly the one in green, never really got there. They seemed focused on trying to generate a headline and a gotcha moment rather than maybe using Jenas’ experiences to deliver a positive or useful message.
 
tommysvr said:
Good conversation. If you do what he did, you shouldn’t be permanently condemned but you should absolutely get a grilling like he did. There’s thousands, millions of men doing what he did every week. They should always be reminded of the weight of what they’re doing to women and girls. They’re predators.

I don’t understand why he did that interview. It sounded like an appeal for people to follow him on social media. And GHod knows, the people most likely to follow him and engage are the ones who would be more likely to commit the same behaviour. Who else wants to listen to someone like him?
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'Someone like him'. For Heaven's sake, this is a person owning their mistakes. He's human, try not being such a judgemental plank all the time.
 
DeanoAustin said:
He’s chosen to go on tv and be interviewed for the first time so I think he could have expected some of what he got even if, essentially, it’s not really my business.

Taking Jenas at face value, he’s been at rock bottom which is a place many men find themselves and often through little or no fault of their own. He lost his job and he lost his family. Jenas was the architect of his own situation but his experience of dealing with that and hopefully coming back from it could help many men who find themselves in the same position for different reasons. That’s where the wasted opportunity was from the journalists.

If they were going to revisit the incidents that led to his sacking, they perhaps should have had him outline why he believes it’s wrong to hammer the message home that that sort of behaviour, particularly in the workplace, is unacceptable.

But the interviewers, particularly the one in green, never really got there. They seemed focused on trying to generate a headline and a gotcha moment rather than maybe using Jenas’ experiences to deliver a positive or useful message.
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Heaven forbid a journalist do their job and challenge someone on their behaviour. He sexually harassed women and brought down his own life. Why do I need to feel sympathy for him?
 
tommysvr said:
Heaven forbid a journalist do their job and challenge someone on their behaviour. He sexually harassed women and brought down his own life. Why do I need to feel sympathy for him?
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Being challenged on his behaviour is fine - he had to expect that was going to happen. He was challenged on it and admitted he was absolutely wrong. He's paid a heavy price for it. I don't see what the point was on continuing to challenge him on it for the whole interview other than to virtue signal and grandstand.

No one asked you to feel sympathy for him. I don't really - he's paid a heavy price but it was because of his own actions. The point is that he found himself in a very dark place where he lost his job and his family (as well as doing it in the full glare of the public). You or I could find ourselves in a similar position and it doesn't need to be because we did anything wrong necessarily. It would have been useful to hear about how he dealt with that and how, seemingly, he's gotten his life back on track.
 
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