markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Quite simply there is no need for restrictions, deep down we all know this all it will do is cause far more damage than good, same with the last lockdown !!
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Coronavirus
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Mikey10
John Lacy
London tends to empty over Christmas, which could be a factor in this.
Certainly some promising signs, but still too early to get too excited imho.
Camden cases peaked at over 300 fallen consistently for 4 days to around 175. Islington was over 400 now just over 200. In the same time frame. That is more than people going away for xmas.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
(Only goes to the 18th so you'd think would be even less now).
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Both South Africa and London omicron has seemed to do a very sharp inverted V peak. It's like it spreads rapidly, but that there's then a limited susceptible population somehow. It seems to hit a sudden wall, rather than going exponential
Lets hope the rest of the country follows the same path.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Holland and Germany are showing similar crashes after rapid peaks. Its interesting anyway
glasgowspur
Nayim
Restrictions will be like petrol prices, up like a rocket, down like a feather
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Surely not, that is actually showing some sense if true !!
Netherlands and germany are still suffering from delta. Not sure if we've seen much omicron there yet.
Bullet
Luka Modric
This isn't true, and you keep saying it.
If someone with CV comes and talks to you and sprays you with breath/spittle. Or coughs on you. Or gives you something they were holding, all can transfer CV.
Those videos earlier with thousands of Spurs fans in the stairwell singing and chanting at the top of their voices, spraying the crowd with swirling breathy vapour...
For instance
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...-19-infection-who-do-not-live-with-the-person
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-covid-19-self-isolating-and-close-contacts
A close contact can be:
- Anyone who lives in the same household as someone with COVID-19 symptoms or who has tested positive for COVID-19
- anyone who has had any of the following types of contact with someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 with a PCR test:
- face-to-face contact including being coughed on or having a face-to-face conversation within one metre
- skin-to-skin physical contact for any length of time
- been within one metre for one minute or longer without face-to-face contact
- sexual contacts
- been within two metres of someone for more than 15 minutes (either as a one-off contact, or added up together over one day)
- travelled in the same vehicle
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Holy fudge it's almost a positive headline from the BBC rather than the usual doom and gloom
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
They are still going on with this 'half the severity but twice the cases is the same thing' flimflam. Clearly it's not. Someone cutting their hand off doing DIY is different pressure on health resources compared to 100 people pricking their finger. If everyone gets it half as sever (as opposed to half nothing, half everything), then it's fudging in the streets time
The important metric is severe cases only
The important metric is severe cases only
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
No it's not - that's GCSE level thinking.
The import metric is hospital admissions Vs available medical resources.
Hospital admissions = all admissions to a hospital. Not just for covid.
Available medical resources = is reduced by staff isolating.
A delta severe vol does not directly correlate to an Omicron one.
If covid continues as it is, we'll probably get to a position next year where a mild case of COVID doesn't require isolation.
It is right to keep it this time because of the unknowns around Omicron when it first started and the minimal immunity.
We've now shown if a similar situation arises we could could get everyone jabbed up in 2-3 weeks, or certainly enough to make it manageable.
It's definitely still possible to get through without restrictions, but it'll be right on the line because of the timings involved - Xmas and new year & the couple of weeks delay in getting the booster program out.
There will need to be a change in NHS staffing policy too - London is always going to be the pinch point of high infections (isolation) and lower vax rates; to alleviate that NHS staff will need to operate like the Police and freely move between area on a short notice demand led model with public protection/heath as it's focus.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
SO what is the current trend then? over 100,000 cases but hospital admissions are level and deaths dropping from what I saw yesterday? Granted was a quick look at the stats so sure there is someone on here with better insights
Hospital admissions have risen in london but many are incidental (people there for other reasons but tested positive for covid). Although cases may have peaked already in london and are now falling. Early days though. But not looking too bad if the rest of the country follows.
Mikey10
John Lacy
That’s being generous; I was thinking Year 6.
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
Season of goodwill and all that jazz.....