Baleforce
Ron Henry
these trophies are defined by the prize, and this one holds the same as the English domestic cups, a Europa league place
there is a hierarchy in play, it's not picking and choosing
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these trophies are defined by the prize, and this one holds the same as the English domestic cups, a Europa league place
there is a hierarchy in play, it's not picking and choosing
...and the prize for this cup is to spend an entire season in another cup nobody wants to be a part of. If they win that, then they qualify for something that counts.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Ans West Ham fans wanted and called for the managers head a month ago, so the idea all cups overcome all including league form is not as night and day as made out
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
David Moyes will stay on as West Ham manager after winning the Europa Conference League.
Moyes' future had been the subject of huge speculation throughout the season.
On three occasions, the Scot appeared to be one game from the sack, however, each time, West Ham won and eventually secured their Premier League future with two games to spare.
The Hammers have since gone on to end their 43-year wait for a trophy by beating Fiorentina in Prague.
And it has now been decided Moyes, 60, will stay in his job as West Ham look forward to European football for the third successive season for the first time in their history.
Moyes will have to cope without skipper Declan Rice, who is set to leave the club this summer, but is eager to build on their Conference League triumph.
"I hope we can continue to make progress. I think we have done over the last two or three years and last night was progress because we won a trophy. It was massive for us to win a trophy," Moyes said when interviewed during West Ham's open-top bus parade in London on Friday.
"It's very hard to compete at the top end every season but all you can do is try your best every season and that's what we do - and next season that's what we'll do.
Moyes' future had been the subject of huge speculation throughout the season.
On three occasions, the Scot appeared to be one game from the sack, however, each time, West Ham won and eventually secured their Premier League future with two games to spare.
The Hammers have since gone on to end their 43-year wait for a trophy by beating Fiorentina in Prague.
And it has now been decided Moyes, 60, will stay in his job as West Ham look forward to European football for the third successive season for the first time in their history.
Moyes will have to cope without skipper Declan Rice, who is set to leave the club this summer, but is eager to build on their Conference League triumph.
"I hope we can continue to make progress. I think we have done over the last two or three years and last night was progress because we won a trophy. It was massive for us to win a trophy," Moyes said when interviewed during West Ham's open-top bus parade in London on Friday.
"It's very hard to compete at the top end every season but all you can do is try your best every season and that's what we do - and next season that's what we'll do.
spurspinter1
Paul Stalteri
But until the end of time will be recorded as the man who won a European trophy with them. There's probably better odds on Poste leaving at that time.
I self imposed a four day ban on the forum as I felt I went in a bit hard in our last discussion but it's absolutely not the case, you're straight up deluded in a delightfully infuriating way.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Yep, him and Redknapp.
spurspinter1
Paul Stalteri
Make it make sense at least. Which competitive European trophy has Redknapp won for West Ham? I can't recall but please enlighten me.
You being an arse hs stretched this bumping of the West Ham thread out btw when it could have been dead and buried.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
The intertoto cup, in 1999, which qualified them for the UEFA cup.
spurspinter1
Paul Stalteri
Was it recognized as a a competitive European trophy at the time?
The way things are set about now suggests there are currently three major European trophies but i can imagine it gets a bit hard in terms of labelling and a lot of it is for marketing purposes.
I'm happy to be wrong on semantics as in effect they won a trophy we were in contention for under Conte and didn't even qualify for this time around. My thought process doesn't compute in your protective bubble of the idea that winning things is bad.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Yes, a full UEFA competition.
There is one major European trophy, and two minor ones, which are steps towards it.
It's not that winning things is bad, its that some things are not worth putting resources into when you have a shot at a greater prize, especially when your resources are limited but those of your peers are not.
Just wanted to pick this bit out.
I don't think anyone is saying winning is bad, just that if you make the competition and the reward small enough, it's inconsequential.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Their fans wanted Moyes out last week
Our fans will have you believe winning the Coca Cola, Lidl europa, steel bin trophy is the be all and end all
Our fans will have you believe winning the Coca Cola, Lidl europa, steel bin trophy is the be all and end all
superspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Winning anything domestic or Europe would be nice though wouldn't it, you'd enjoy it.
Moyes will be gone by Christmas, though owners not doing him any favours, not signed anyone and sitting on a big pile of cash.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
I would, I am being overly trashy about bit, I won't lie
But that trophy is trash, but I would take it
away from that I thin Moyes is a decent manager, given a few years of stability he would have them doing ok IMO...
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
I wouldn't want moyes as our manager, but fudge me, he's achieved winning something with west fudging ham. Let that sink in.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
they’ve already embezzled that
Kandi1977
Terry Dyson
There's a bit of a rift between Moyes and their recently appointed sporting director, who's made his name doing well in spotting up and coming young players around Europe. But Moyes seem to only want established players with PL experience. Won't end well for Moyes.
Someone told me earlier today. West Ham were meant to fly yesterday. They got to Stansted and were ready. But then apparently the pilot had had his passport stolen. No alternative pilot available. So they had to go back this morning at 5:30 to fly for a 13:00 ko.