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Dele Alli

El Guepardo said:
And the negatives:

Once again appear to be a selling club. A platform for players, rather than the final clubs.
Selling one of our best midfielders, since Bale, certainly in terms of impact made.
Being Real Madrid's bitch once more
Likely wasting the received funds; like we did when we sold Bale

Best to look at 2 sides of the coin.
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Everyone's Madrid's bitch when it comes to player sales - even Utd.
 
Apart from its dodgy political views i thought everyone knew the mirror was a gooner paper. All negative stories seem to come from there. Levy should ban it like he did the standard a few years ago.
 
scaramanga said:
Everyone's Madrid's bitch when it comes to player sales - even Utd.
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This. A few years ago, our players were getting linked to Chelsea, Liverpool, ManU, and so on. That's just not happening now. Instead, the only realistic buyers are now the very top clubs in the football world -- Real, Barca, Bayern.

Keane and Berbatov, our two best attacking players, went to Liverpool and ManU in the same transfer window. Could you see that happening with Kane and Alli? Nope.

Still, like Bale, to be a stand-out player at Spurs, you now need to be pretty brick-hot. Not just "looks good in a mid-table side" like Ginola, but "would walk into any team in the world" brick-hot. And Levy put down a marker of €100m (or whatever it was). To be honest, if Dele keeps developing at his 2016 trajectory for the rest of this season, he's going to be truly world class come May...and I wouldn't blame him for moving to Madrid.

I'm just hoping that everyone keeps on failing to notice the excellence of Toby, Dier and Lloris. Move along, nothing to see here.
 
Would love us to knock Real Madrid out of the Champions League. Stop taking our best players FFS! But yes I agree this is hugely preferable to them joining a rival club, which as you say wouldn't happen now.
 
braineclipse said:
Bentaleb's problem wasn't ever a lack of ability, potential our talent.

I think at this point high praise for Alli is spot on. If he'll push on from here to the heights Steff is talking about only time will tell really.
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I think Dele has fantastic potential. But the key word is still potential. I am wary of giving such lavish and gushing praise until he has actually achieved something worthwhile (which I very much hope will be with us). Hence the Bentaleb comment. We don't yet know what the future will hold.
 
harr1984 said:
Definitely. I cant see him going abroad at his age, and I think he'd be ill advised to do so....
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I wonder whether Dier's experience will help or hinder us? He's Alli's BFF, and can tell him exactly what being at a top (for Portugal) continental club is like. I hope he's telling him that the grass won't be any greener, rather than saying how lovely the Iberian sunshine is!

Unlike many, Alli seems to have his head screwed on, and has had some good advice. How many kids in his shoes would have gone to Liverpool? Okay, so he'd have done pretty well under Klopp (and I do think that's a genuine danger if Liverpool win the league), but he'd have sunk under Rodgers. Thankfully, we've got the mother of all training grounds and the new stadium is going to be AWESOME.
 
FatBloke said:
I wonder whether Dier's experience will help or hinder us? He's Alli's BFF, and can tell him exactly what being at a top (for Portugal) continental club is like. I hope he's telling him that the grass won't be any greener, rather than saying how lovely the Iberian sunshine is!

Unlike many, Alli seems to have his head screwed on, and has had some good advice. How many kids in his shoes would have gone to Liverpool? Okay, so he'd have done pretty well under Klopp (and I do think that's a genuine danger if Liverpool win the league), but he'd have sunk under Rodgers. Thankfully, we've got the mother of all training grounds and the new stadium is going to be AWESOME.
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Not sure .. Poch gives Dele more freedom (and game time) that I think he would have got from any other manager, I also think Poch has a much more tactical approach (Klopp for me is not much of an upgrade on Rodgers, same bum rush tactics)

The thing with Dele is two fold

- Yes, its still potential, but his current rate of return (10+ goals a season) would make him one of the better AMs in PL history if he just kept that up.
- He is 20, game time is the single most important thing to his development, he'd be crazy to move now (23-25 is a different conversation).
 
FatBloke said:
I wonder whether Dier's experience will help or hinder us? He's Alli's BFF, and can tell him exactly what being at a top (for Portugal) continental club is like. I hope he's telling him that the grass won't be any greener, rather than saying how lovely the Iberian sunshine is!
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But this is Real Madrid and Dier was a youth coming through ranks in Lisbon because his family circumstances no?
 
Putting my Spurs-tinted specs on, I'd like to think that Dele, and the rest of the squad, want to at least be at the club for the first season in the new stadium. Of course that could be a pipe-dream, but it's an exciting time for the club, and hopefully they want to be part of a big new chapter in our history.
 
I don't think he will go there...yet.

Real are probably sniffing around now because he's not been around long enough to have developed a massive price tag. Give it another two seasons (he'll still be 23) and I can see it happening, but right now he's got no reason to rush. Irrespective of being a Spurs fan, I'd tell him to keep his head down and just focus on his football.
 
FatBloke said:
I wonder whether Dier's experience will help or hinder us? He's Alli's BFF, and can tell him exactly what being at a top (for Portugal) continental club is like. I hope he's telling him that the grass won't be any greener, rather than saying how lovely the Iberian sunshine is!

Unlike many, Alli seems to have his head screwed on, and has had some good advice. How many kids in his shoes would have gone to Liverpool? Okay, so he'd have done pretty well under Klopp (and I do think that's a genuine danger if Liverpool win the league), but he'd have sunk under Rodgers. Thankfully, we've got the mother of all training grounds and the new stadium is going to be AWESOME.
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The people I know who know dele would describe him as a home bird for a start... he has come from a broken home and likes stability. He has a lot to do with his "foster" family still and his current girlfriend is a hair dresser from my part of the world so maybe he is keeping himself away from the big city lights

I'd also add that Liverpool will not spend big unless they sell big... their finances are not dissimilar to ours in reality as they pay more in wages that balances againsbt their higher income so I can't see them affording dele unless they sell 2/3 players or value
 
Grays_1890 said:
But this is Real Madrid and Dier was a youth coming through ranks in Lisbon because his family circumstances no?
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True. What I meant was that Dier would be able to tell him more about the general style at those leagues , i.e. the intensity (or lack of), frequency of training, laid-back lifestyle, etc. I believe there are parallels between the Portuguese league (with Porto, Benfica and Sporting) dominant at the top and the Spanish (Real, Barca, Atletico), in that half the fixtures are pretty much walkovers.

Bedfordspurs said:
The people I know who know dele would describe him as a home bird for a start... he has come from a broken home and likes stability. He has a lot to do with his "foster" family still and his current girlfriend is a hair dresser from my part of the world so maybe he is keeping himself away from the big city lights

I'd also add that Liverpool will not spend big unless they sell big... their finances are not dissimilar to ours in reality as they pay more in wages that balances againsbt their higher income so I can't see them affording dele unless they sell 2/3 players or value
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Good to know. Hopefully that means he'll really value the family that Poch is building.

And fair point about Liverpool's finances. There's no way they'd ever shell out whatever Levy wants for Dele. Not a snowball's chance in hell.
 
El Guepardo said:
And the negatives:

Once again appear to be a selling club. A platform for players, rather than the final clubs.
Selling one of our best midfielders, since Bale, certainly in terms of impact made.
Being Real Madrid's bitch once more
Likely wasting the received funds; like we did when we sold Bale

Best to look at 2 sides of the coin.
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Says who?

The naffing Mirror?

Don't take them so seriously.
 
He might eventually go abroad, although I'd say that's a season or two off yet - and anything could happen in that time.

I really can't see us selling him to Liverpool, or any other English club. I like to believe those days are gone.


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