Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
The guy is a dingdonghead innit bruv. Haters gunna hate blud.
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O/T The England Thread
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The guy is a dingdonghead innit bruv. Haters gunna hate blud.
stinkfoot
Eidur Gudjohnsen
THFC6061
Paul Robinson
England Caps by Club Affiliation under Roy Hodgson...
England National Team Squad Minutes played under Roy Hodgson
England National Team Squad Minutes played under Roy Hodgson
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I always thought the same. Milner doesn't add ANYTHING other than hard work etc.
In fact players like Milner is what is wrong with the England national team.
I always thought the same. Milner doesn't add ANYTHING other than hard work etc.
In fact players like Milner is what is wrong with the England national team.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Lennon is the most underrated player in England
Lennon is the most underrated player in England
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
usually I'd have said Leon Osman but he seems to be getting his moment of glory right now. and out of his depth too.
usually I'd have said Leon Osman but he seems to be getting his moment of glory right now. and out of his depth too.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Someone like Leon Britton could do a job for England, not flashy but can keep the ball. But he plays for an unfashionable club.
Someone like Leon Britton could do a job for England, not flashy but can keep the ball. But he plays for an unfashionable club.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Underrated sure and miles better than Milner, but ultimately hasn't delivered enough for England, just like 99% of our players.
Underrated sure and miles better than Milner, but ultimately hasn't delivered enough for England, just like 99% of our players.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
For England your right. But never ever been near being a permanent fixture in the England side. Also not just by the national side but fans of other clubs, pundits etc, never seem to really appreciate Azza like the WHL faithful do. Has to be easily one of the most popular players with the fans that we have.
For England your right. But never ever been near being a permanent fixture in the England side. Also not just by the national side but fans of other clubs, pundits etc, never seem to really appreciate Azza like the WHL faithful do. Has to be easily one of the most popular players with the fans that we have.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I really like Lennon, but I guess fans just look at his overall end product and think he doesn't deliver enough. They have a point, he doesn't score enough goals. Always had problems with injuries too. I wonder how he would do at a club like Man U. Not that I'd want that to happen.
I really like Lennon, but I guess fans just look at his overall end product and think he doesn't deliver enough. They have a point, he doesn't score enough goals. Always had problems with injuries too. I wonder how he would do at a club like Man U. Not that I'd want that to happen.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
He has hardly been given the chance. It's always one or two friendlies here and there for Lennon.
He RARELY gets picked when he's on flying form and when he does he's on the bench. Why should he care about playing in a friendly when the manager clearly doesnt care about playing him.
He has hardly been given the chance. It's always one or two friendlies here and there for Lennon.
He RARELY gets picked when he's on flying form and when he does he's on the bench. Why should he care about playing in a friendly when the manager clearly doesnt care about playing him.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Only thing I would say that is that Aaron, like many England players, has rarely reproduced anything like the level of his club form for England. For England, he has all too often been the frustrating player, who we have seen at times for for Spurs, who lacks the confidence to take on his man.
It also has to be said that England have rarely been set up to best utilise his qualities.
Only thing I would say that is that Aaron, like many England players, has rarely reproduced anything like the level of his club form for England. For England, he has all too often been the frustrating player, who we have seen at times for for Spurs, who lacks the confidence to take on his man.
It also has to be said that England have rarely been set up to best utilise his qualities.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Agree with the bold bit.
I think England (as we have decent individuals as opposed to team players) should always play a team that compliments eachother as opposed to 11 best players. If we play Lennon, then play Walker at right back, they know each other from Spurs etc. even Defoe up top as him and Lennon have a very good understanding.
Agree with the bold bit.
I think England (as we have decent individuals as opposed to team players) should always play a team that compliments eachother as opposed to 11 best players. If we play Lennon, then play Walker at right back, they know each other from Spurs etc. even Defoe up top as him and Lennon have a very good understanding.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Granted, but he was picked ahead of Walcott for South Africa 2010 and he didn't play well.
Granted, but he was picked ahead of Walcott for South Africa 2010 and he didn't play well.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
USA - No one played well, apart from Gerrard. Lennon provided the best pass of the game though and Heskey scuffed up, no surprise.
Algeria - I can guarantee he didn't even touch the ball 10 times. I always thought people shy away from passing to Lennon.
Slovenia - Dropped.
Germany - Benched. SWP came on instead of him.
USA - No one played well, apart from Gerrard. Lennon provided the best pass of the game though and Heskey scuffed up, no surprise.
Algeria - I can guarantee he didn't even touch the ball 10 times. I always thought people shy away from passing to Lennon.
Slovenia - Dropped.
Germany - Benched. SWP came on instead of him.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Thought England were just as bad in the first half as they were in the second; the difference was that Montenegro were much, much better in the second than they were in the first.
Thought Carrick was our best player... kept the ball really well, and not just by playing simple sideways or backwards passes - he played so many accurate balls along the ground to our attacking players' feet, and I think it's a skill and a contribution that's often overlooked.
When Milner has significantly more England caps than Lennon, it's not difficult to see why the team struggles to keep possession or play exciting attacking football. (Milner's pass completion rate was 60% tonight, and is 76.6% for Emirates Marketing Project this season (Lennon's is 85%)) ... And Milner has 1 assist this season. WHY THE fudge DOES THIS GUY START SO MANY GAMES FOR ENGLAND!?
Gerrard often provides an attacking spark for us, but I hate that he's always (it seems to me) so sloppy in possession...
If Cleverley didn't play for United, would he be anywhere near the squad? Seems a rather average player every time I see him...
IMO Carrick and Wheelchair should always be the first-choice central midfielders (and a pretty good duo at that), and Lennon should have the right-wing spot locked down.
Thought England were just as bad in the first half as they were in the second; the difference was that Montenegro were much, much better in the second than they were in the first.
Thought Carrick was our best player... kept the ball really well, and not just by playing simple sideways or backwards passes - he played so many accurate balls along the ground to our attacking players' feet, and I think it's a skill and a contribution that's often overlooked.
When Milner has significantly more England caps than Lennon, it's not difficult to see why the team struggles to keep possession or play exciting attacking football. (Milner's pass completion rate was 60% tonight, and is 76.6% for Emirates Marketing Project this season (Lennon's is 85%)) ... And Milner has 1 assist this season. WHY THE fudge DOES THIS GUY START SO MANY GAMES FOR ENGLAND!?
Gerrard often provides an attacking spark for us, but I hate that he's always (it seems to me) so sloppy in possession...
If Cleverley didn't play for United, would he be anywhere near the squad? Seems a rather average player every time I see him...
IMO Carrick and Wheelchair should always be the first-choice central midfielders (and a pretty good duo at that), and Lennon should have the right-wing spot locked down.