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Luka Vuskovic

SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
I would find this a bit odd from Vuskovic’s PoV. We signed him, we waited for him to arrive, we found him a good loan. At the same time, he did really well while we as a club did really badly.

How can promises possibly have been broken seriously at this point?

I think the way Vuskovic or his team are handling things to be a bit strange to be honest. They’ve clearly let it be known he’d be very happy to go to Brighton. But why is there not more of a ‘I’ll have a PL loan and then crush it at Spurs after that’ view?
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What promises can we make to a player we have effectively only had for one year
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
I would find this a bit odd from Vuskovic’s PoV. We signed him, we waited for him to arrive, we found him a good loan. At the same time, he did really well while we as a club did really badly.

How can promises possibly have been broken seriously at this point?

I think the way Vuskovic or his team are handling things to be a bit strange to be honest. They’ve clearly let it be known he’d be very happy to go to Brighton. But why is there not more of a ‘I’ll have a PL loan and then crush it at Spurs after that’ view?
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Equally he has done absolutely everything you would want from a youth prospect and their loan deals. There should be a plan in place. Otherwise.....again.....whats the point..

As for the earlier claim about the Bundesliga and its quality, I agree to an extent, but if you dont want to be put into a position where you think the standards not helpful, then dont send him there, but let's be frank, he went at 18 and absolutely excelled regardless, so he is a product of the clubs decisions still, they have to be accountable for those decisions, his accountability was to go and do well, and he did that and some.
 
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MartyFunkhouser said:
Equally he has done absolutely everything you would want from a youth prospect and their loan deals. There should be a plan in place. Otherwise.....again.....whats the point..

As for the earlier claim about the Bundesliga and its quality, I agree to an extent, but if you dont want to be put into a position where you think the standards not helpful, then dont send him there, but let's be frank, he went at 18 and absolutely excelled regardless, so he is a product of the clubs decisions still, they have to be accountable for those decisions, his accountability was to go and do well, and he did that and some.
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Maybe its the profit they are after? Its only double what we paid but if these lot in charge are really not football people, then a quick £15m profit might be something they find interesting.
 
Yiddo said:
Maybe its the profit they are after? Its only double what we paid but if these lot in charge are really not football people, then a quick £15m profit might be something they find interesting.
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Maybe so, I am leaning towards a mindset that this is asset juggling if it happens.....again not thinking it will, but who the fcuk knows with our club
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
I would find this a bit odd from Vuskovic’s PoV. We signed him, we waited for him to arrive, we found him a good loan. At the same time, he did really well while we as a club did really badly.

How can promises possibly have been broken seriously at this point?

I think the way Vuskovic or his team are handling things to be a bit strange to be honest. They’ve clearly let it be known he’d be very happy to go to Brighton. But why is there not more of a ‘I’ll have a PL loan and then crush it at Spurs after that’ view?
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Because Brighton are ultimately a stepping stone selling club, yes, they bargain hard and demand big fees, but in two or three years time, they would sell him to a truly elite club, whereas if he develops as we all hope, we won’t sell unless there is the proverbial gun to the club’s head.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Maybe so, I am leaning towards a mindset that this is asset juggling if it happens.....again not thinking it will, but who the fcuk knows with our club
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I’d like to think that these people at the club have a bit of common sense. They know the fan base have high hopes, they know he is sought after and they know he has had 2 good loans, surely they are not that stupid are they?
 
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MartyFunkhouser said:
Absolutely, but there has to be a plan for youth integration otherwise it makes a mockery of the time and money we are investing in youth and scouting
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Totally agree, and we should be doing everything we can to keep him and keep him happy.
Not however at the cost of another poor season by playing a youth player.
He has youth on his side, we can't afford another bottom half finish lol
 
I think it's just how Brighton updates its moneyball algorithms. The stats are out there so it's a question of putting a value to it.
 
glasgowspur said:
Totally agree, and we should be doing everything we can to keep him and keep him happy.
Not however at the cost of another poor season by playing a youth player.
He has youth on his side, we can't afford another bottom half finish lol
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We can't but we can be brave and do both, if Brighton want him, history should tell us that we should keep him
 
Yiddo.1882 said:
Because Brighton are ultimately a stepping stone selling club, yes, they bargain hard and demand big fees, but in two or three years time, they would sell him to a truly elite club, whereas if he develops as we all hope, we won’t sell unless there is the proverbial gun to the club’s head.
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The alternative view of that is that Spurs are the place you go if you want to prove that you can genuinely be one of the best in the world. Modric and Bale went to Madrid after showing what they could do with us - regular European football, teams that defend deep against us, higher expectations.

It’s much harder to go become truly elite at a Brighton. If it’s all about him wanting to play, I’d totally get that. Just not sure where the willingness to force a permanent move is coming from when he’s not even 20…
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
I would find this a bit odd from Vuskovic’s PoV. We signed him, we waited for him to arrive, we found him a good loan. At the same time, he did really well while we as a club did really badly.

How can promises possibly have been broken seriously at this point?

I think the way Vuskovic or his team are handling things to be a bit strange to be honest. They’ve clearly let it be known he’d be very happy to go to Brighton. But why is there not more of a ‘I’ll have a PL loan and then crush it at Spurs after that’ view?
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My feeling is that it's because he thinks Brighton will offer him more regular appearances than Spurs and if he plays and does well there he won't need Spurs before moving to the bigger club that he and his management are portraying as his destiny.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
The alternative view of that is that Spurs are the place you go if you want to prove that you can genuinely be one of the best in the world. Modric and Bale went to Madrid after showing what they could do with us - regular European football, teams that defend deep against us, higher expectations.

It’s much harder to go become truly elite at a Brighton. If it’s all about him wanting to play, I’d totally get that. Just not sure where the willingness to force a permanent move is coming from when he’s not even 20…
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BigChiv9 said:
My feeling is that it's because he thinks Brighton will offer him more regular appearances than Spurs and if he plays and does well there he won't need Spurs before moving to the bigger club that he and his management are portraying as his destiny.
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Where is this idea that Vuskovic has asked to leave come from?
 
BigChiv9 said:
My feeling is that it's because he thinks Brighton will offer him more regular appearances than Spurs and if he plays and does well there he won't need Spurs before moving to the bigger club that he and his management are portraying as his destiny.
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I feel like Brighton gets you to Liverpool / Chelsea / Arsenal, but Spurs gets you to Madrid and building the team around you.
 
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