DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
'People', maybe. This is Ronaldo. If Dier can't tell the difference he needs his head examined.
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'People', maybe. This is Ronaldo. If Dier can't tell the difference he needs his head examined.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
I don’t think so, they are where they are because we are not the only team blinded by the badge, teams roll over for them because in their heads it’s Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs still.
Boro was a harder game and they can’t get out of the championship.
Robspur12
John Lacy
Sorry don’t agree with that at all. You want someone tight to Ronaldo not giving him all the time in the world to control the ball and pick his spot. I like Dier but that was really poor defending.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
He’s a 40 year old, he won’t score another like that in his life, Hugo fudged up what should have been an easy save.
Robspur12
John Lacy
Get out of here. That goal is no way on Lloris.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
You don’t score from that far out against a competent keeper. The ball has too far to travel.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Age takes away your speed. It takes away none of your technique/shot power, which is what mattered there.
Hugo was never saving that. He could be a six-legged jetpack-equipped Buffon and he wouldn't have saved it, imo.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Watch it again, he doesn’t react, he’s not on his toes, Ronaldo had three touches and he hadn’t even begun to set himself.
Mistakes were made elsewhere, but that was a shot that should have been saved.
Robspur12
John Lacy
He absolutely shouted in his face mate. I watched it several times. It wasn’t clever.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
It was pathetic mate…. He laughed in his face and then cost us more points by (again) losing his player for their winner.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
He missed it by half an inch, despite not moving his feet or preparing for the shot at all, in the age Ronaldo had to take a couple of touches and get the shot away.
He’ll be blaming himself for that one.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
They are where they are because that is their level…. Just as with every team in rhe league
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
A shot that never should have happened too. Bentancour is the wrong side of Fred. Then dier moves backwards, then makes himself small. Lloris maybe could have done better but it’s a great team effort.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
@Robspur12 - fair enough to you both. I only watched it once, and it didn't come across that way, but if you've seen it again, then it just makes it stupid on Romero's part.
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
We're being hyper-critical in my view. Half a dozen times in a game, something like that happens and there is no goal. It was just a bit of brilliance from him. Hats off but looking to blame people? We're being harsh.
Legohamster
Cecil Poynton
Wasnt impressed with his actions on Monday either, stupid tackle and dangerous.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Neither Bentancur nor Hojbjerg are 'sitters, though. This is the mistake that people make with the pair of them - their entire career, people have assumed they screen the defence, which isn't true.
Ruben Neves is a 'sitter'. Matic is a 'sitter'. Players that sit deep, fill gaps, cover shots, get out to their men.
Bentancur and Hojbjerg are both Khedira-esque ball winners, best closing high and winning balls all over the field. They are good tacklers - they are not good positionally, because their best role involves a free roaming assignment to close down and tackle.
In the peak Madrid team under Mourinho, in a midfield duo of Alonso and Khedira, Alonso was the screen, not Khedira. Khedira rampaged up field winning it high and laying it off to Ozil/Ronaldo/Benzema et al. Alonso sat deep and screened the backline + played it forward from deep.
We lack that player. Winks is useless. Skipp, Bentancur and Hojbjerg are all functionally identical. A positionally disciplined 'sitting' midfielder? We've lacked one since..well, actually, probably since Huddlestone.
Parker, Sandro, Palacios, Wanyama, Dembele, Sissoko, Hojbjerg, Skipp, Bentancur...all best as free-roaming destroyers. Not sitters.
And every top team has a sitter. Rodri, Matic, Xhaka + Partey, Jorginho, Fabinho et al. Even Spam have Rice who can even drop in as CB when needed.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
It's basics though isn't it, you don't need to be a sitter to know someone should be sitting, and that if you are playing CM and the other one isn't doing it you need to drop in.
Son isn't an FB, but if Reggie gets knocked down on an overlap I damn well expect him to drop back and fill in there.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Yep, we need to thoroughly dissect every one though, we won't stop making them until we understand why we did.