Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
Barca have money again so I wonder if there is a deal to be done there
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Tanguy Ndombele
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glasgowspur
Luka Modric
With this being the busiest part of the season I think conte took a gamble with the subs and played who he thought would get us over the line, while keeping others fresh.
It should have, and nearly did work, but we lacked composure.
It should have, and nearly did work, but we lacked composure.
That's not how good decisions work.
He doesn't have to be worthy of his transfer fee to get picked, he just has to be marginally better than Hojbjerg, Skipp or Winks, and he is.
Same applies if he cost us £1Bn - the decision to play him or not has nothing to do with that value or the perceived shortage between his performances and that cost. It only has to do with what makes the team better.
SouthStand322
Kevin-Prince Boateng
Played against liverpool - played one good pass, anonymous for most of the rest of the time he was on the pitch. Not any better than Winks that day, probably the least noticable of the 3 in CM.
Cameo against Palace - looked off the pace, did nothing of note except lose the ball in the middle of the pitch.
Watch him warm up next time you're at a game, and see if you think he gives a sh*t! Capable of moments of brilliance but not offering more than any of Skipp, Hojberg or Winks currently.
Cameo against Palace - looked off the pace, did nothing of note except lose the ball in the middle of the pitch.
Watch him warm up next time you're at a game, and see if you think he gives a sh*t! Capable of moments of brilliance but not offering more than any of Skipp, Hojberg or Winks currently.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
There's that willful exaggeration of what I said again.
Re-read it; understand the full and proper context - then have a sensible conversation about consistency, end product and contribution to team cohesion.
Alternatively, stay blinded by the highlight reel.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
That's rather naive coming from you.
His transfer fee is a market benchmark of ability and expectation of output; those combined + reputation = current market value. If he is more saleable than those players mentioned to facilitate the procurement of a more suitable player, then that is what needs to happen.
Until the procurement window opens if his all-round skill set isn't suitable for the team, then he shouldn't be part of it. Not further exposing his flaws (thus retaining the reputation) helps keep higher market value; ergo higher possiblity of good quality replacement.
Denmark Spur
Michael Carrick
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Depends what you mean by better. If you mean skills then yes, but following the manager's tactics he's obviously worse than those three. Conte knows how to set up a system and make players look better for it, but if one player isn't pulling their weight it fudges the system.
superspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Just hope we can get something decent for him now, £30m perhaps best we can hope for, will assume a Loan with view to buy will be more realistic.
The system worked well against Liverpool and was probably our best team performance under Conte[/QUOTE]
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
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It was
But he was arguably our weakest player that game
You improve the weakest area and the team improves
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
That's pretty naive coming from you. That's not how the prices work at all. There are numerous other factors that come into play, such as club needs money, club does not want/need to sell, buying club is desperate etc.
Example, if we were to sell Dele, he'd not be worth more than 20m (don't get hung up in the numbers. It's just an example). But if Saudi Sportswashing Machine came and wanted to buy him, we'd probably set the price at 80m. So the price is certainly not just a sum of the parameters you listed. There are thousands of other factors that play in.
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
100%
We paid a fair price for Tanguy with what we saw what his potential and scale
In retrospect it looks mental now but that’s how it works with transfers. Their all gambles
Prices fluctuate depending on supply and demand and also timing
Improving the team isn't necessarily as simple as swapping out the worst performing player for a 'better player' - in the case of Saints away and Hojbjerg in for Ndombele the difference in type of player may have weakened the unit, even if on paper you'd say PEH is more consistent/better for us.
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
I think Hojdjberg is a weak link now
He didn’t play vs pool and we did create quicker attacks
For me the CM pair we have to try us winks and skipp as both can and will pass quickly
I’m not anti Tanguy but eh hasn’t done anything under Conte for conte to want to back him
Tanguy came on vs palace and again his numbers were very poor
parklane1
Tony Galvin
And in Contes eyes at this present time he is not because following your premise he would play instead of them.
We're not talking about a keep/sell decision, where his value certainly comes into the equation.
This is a play/bench question - it has no relevance there.
I don't think that's a correct analysis by Conte based on what our midfield produced (or in this case, didn't) in our last match.
I may not have started him against a team like SCBC that runs themselves ragged in the first 30 minutes but I'd have brought him on to unpick that lock.
