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Next Manager?

At this point I doubt Rodgers takes us. They are actually doing better than we are, play better football than we do with lesser players and have even won the league more recently than we have.

He has a chairman who is proactive in the window and purchases the players he needs. They take those risks and gambles on talented but unproven players and the expectation level is actually lower so the likelihood of being sacked is lower.

I wouldn't leave Leicester for Spurs if I were him. [emoji2369]

I agree with all of that..but... we are still a bigger draw than Leicester will ever be. Brendan Rogers strikes me as having a fairly big ego; would he be able to resist the challenge of turning us into winners again? Logic says he wouldn't join I just have a sneaking suspicion he would. Then again, wtf do i know!
 
[QUOTE="Bedfordspurs, post: 1436735, member: 150"]I think part of our problem is expectation vs reality
We can get another name manager in... they are out there and plenty would want the job
Nothing wrong with that at all. Would arguably cost us more money to recruit and they would come with their own expectations and a certain expectation from the fans and club
That’s a mourinho type appointment although there aren’t many like him left as most trophies have been eaten up by certain managers now
Or you go for a manager who has demonstrated some growth and capability in his coaching, ideally with a clear philosophy and style and take that as a calculated gamble
Someone like Parker or Potter
The middle ground is a Nagelsmann.
Very en vogue and the man for now. Could be anything TBH but very much a man that other clubs would want too

personally I’d love a man for now who can take us for the future
It will impact on player retention. That manager will need to really focus on the youth too and I think we’re in a great shape there if it’s a bit early for some of them[/QUOTE]


This, success is relative and if you listed all our achievements over the last six years boxes have been ticked and targets met.
But we got there too fast and floundered nit knowing what to do to progress.
 
I agree with all of that..but... we are still a bigger draw than Leicester will ever be. Brendan Rogers strikes me as having a fairly big ego; would he be able to resist the challenge of turning us into winners again? Logic says he wouldn't join I just have a sneaking suspicion he would. Then again, wtf do i know!

Rogers would take it all day long. Leicester won't last, players will get picked off and at some point Vardy is too old (34 now, 3 years older than Bale as perspective)

If he got them into CL this year, he'd be smart to get to fudge out as quickly as possible to next gig ..
 
[QUOTE="Bedfordspurs, post: 1436735, member: 150"]I think part of our problem is expectation vs reality
We can get another name manager in... they are out there and plenty would want the job
Nothing wrong with that at all. Would arguably cost us more money to recruit and they would come with their own expectations and a certain expectation from the fans and club
That’s a mourinho type appointment although there aren’t many like him left as most trophies have been eaten up by certain managers now
Or you go for a manager who has demonstrated some growth and capability in his coaching, ideally with a clear philosophy and style and take that as a calculated gamble
Someone like Parker or Potter
The middle ground is a Nagelsmann.
Very en vogue and the man for now. Could be anything TBH but very much a man that other clubs would want too

personally I’d love a man for now who can take us for the future
It will impact on player retention. That manager will need to really focus on the youth too and I think we’re in a great shape there if it’s a bit early for some of them


This, success is relative and if you listed all our achievements over the last six years boxes have been ticked and targets met.
But we got there too fast and floundered nit knowing what to do to progress.[/QUOTE]
Everything is relative
One place higher in the league would be progress wouldnt it
 
Rogers would take it all day long. Leicester won't last, players will get picked off and at some point Vardy is too old (34 now, 3 years older than Bale as perspective)

If he got them into CL this year, he'd be smart to get to fudge out as quickly as possible to next gig ..
Sure Leicester may not last but neither might we. If he's smart he goes for a more secure appointment. Either with a team less trigger happy for failing to over achieve or one that throws money at the problems a la Chelsea.

He joins Spurs he has to first over achieve and then deal with a chairman who is too stubborn to see the harm he causes the team. After of that the same chairman will sack him when he can't get whatever broken squad he's been left with functioning.

A smart man doesn't take the Spurs job if there other comparable jobs potentially in the offing.
 
Im happy to give Mou a bit more time, probably to the end of his contract (Get i am in the minority). Ultimately pre-season due to covid was non existent and the fixture list due to that has been abnormal, only need to look at the inconsistent performances from everyone bar City to see that, its been a very weird season and the one before he came in mid-way.

Never been a fan of chopping and changing managers willy nilly, SAF was close to be sacked by United in the late 80's/early 90's for example - took him 2/3 seasons (not suggesting Mou was about to do the same, just the time it can take for managers to imprint the vision onto a team). Whilst i dont think everything should be put on the players and some of it has to be due to the manager, i cant solely put it on him for the players not being bothered to run or press.

our gaps our clear, we need a decent CB to sure up that defence, we need a decent RB, a GK who can actually kick would be helpful and a midfield who doesn't hide, can play between the lines and link defence and attack as our biggest issue is when put under pressure and pressed. At least then i can be sure if its the Manager and his tactics or the personnel we have.
 
This is spot on, there is no chance he comes to spurs unless they pay him the big bucks, even then at best it’s a sideways step at the moment.

The two favourites for the jobs if reports are true are unlikely to come here.




Would Allegri work here? Juve hoovered up frees and whacked them on high wages - what’s he like when buying players?

isnt he park the bus esq?

I don’t pay that much attention to Italian league.
Allegri is a big name but plays boring defensive football, I really wouldn't him. I wouldn't expect his reign to be any different than Mourinho's tbh.

He's not particularly tactically interesting. He's a big no for me.
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ob-spurs-hugo-lloris-dressing-room-divisions/

Jose Mourinho fighting to save his job at Spurs after Hugo Lloris hints at deep divisions in dressing room

Not even winning the Carabao Cup will guarantee Mourinho his job, only getting back into the race for the top four

Jose Mourinho is fighting an uphill battle to keep his Tottenham Hotspur job past this season and to keep his squad united behind him as they attempt to bounce back from their Europa League humiliation.

The shock defeat to Dinamo Zagreb in the last-16 of the Europa League on Thursday night was a massive blow to Mourinho’s hopes of surviving the threat of the sack.

As reported by Telegraph Sport last month, RB Leipzig manager Julian Nagelsmann will be Tottenham’s preferred choice to replace Mourinho if chairman Daniel Levy is forced to act.

Not even winning the Carabao Cup, which would be Tottenham’s first trophy in 13 years, will be enough to guarantee that Mourinho’s job is safe if they cannot drag themselves back into the race for the top four in the Premier League.

Spurs are six points behind fourth-placed Chelsea with a game in hand, which they play at the weekend at Aston Villa, and victory in that match and at Saudi Sportswashing Machine after the international break could see them revive their Champions League qualification hopes. But a defeat in either would leave Tottenham’s League campaign on the brink of collapse.

Winning the Europa League and qualifying for next season’s Champions League would have almost certainly been enough for Mourinho to continue past this season, but he must now give Levy cause for optimism through their League position.

It remains unlikely that Tottenham will take action during the season, unless the situation deteriorates dramatically, and the finances involved in making a managerial change could be an issue, given Mourinho will still have two years to run on his £13million-a-year contract at the end of this season.

Levy initially put former manager Mauricio Pochettino on gardening leave and the likelihood is, at least in the short term, he would take similar action in Mourinho’s case to avoid paying an immediate lump sum in compensation.

It is believed that Nagelsmann could be significantly cheaper to appoint than Mourinho was and the highly-rated German is thought to be interested in working in the Premier League.

Mourinho and his squad returned to England late on Thursday night and stayed together at Tottenham’s training ground before starting preparations for the trip to Villa, which are likely to include an inquest over what went wrong in Zagreb.

Captain Hugo Lloris laid bare the dissatisfaction and splits of opinion within the squad, which Mourinho must now wrestle with as he attempts to guide Tottenham back on course, following the Europa League exit and last weekend’s North London derby defeat.

Mourinho retains the support of some of Tottenham’s key players, but others are understood to question his training methods and his handling of various situations.

Three of the players who were part of the defeat in Zagreb, Gareth Bale, Dele Alli and Harry Winks, have all been frozen out by Mourinho for spells of this season only to then be recalled for big games.

Serge Aurier stormed out of Tottenham’s stadium at half-time of the defeat to Liverpool in January after being substituted, while Eric Dier rejected Mourinho’s claim that he had suffered a crisis of confidence.

Danny Rose, who remains friends with members of Tottenham’s first-team squad, is still at the club and being paid but he was not given a squad number and has trained with the youth teams this season.

Some sources are suggesting Mourinho needs “a miracle” to hold on to his job, while others are more cautious and believe Levy is still desperate for his gamble to somehow pay off.

Levy has remained supportive of Mourinho, but he will have been shocked by the brutal assessment of where Tottenham currently find themselves from goalkeeper Lloris.

“It’s just the accumulation,” said Lloris. “We are a club full of ambition, but the team at the moment is just a reflection of what is going on at the club.

“We have a lack of basics and lack of fundamentals. All our performances are in relation to that. Mentally we should be stronger and more competitive.

“To behave as a team is the most difficult thing in football. Whatever the decision of the manager, you have to follow the way of the team. If you only follow the way of the team when you are in the starting XI it causes big problems for the team.”

Mourinho accuses players of lacking professionalism
Jose Mourinho accused his Tottenham Hotspur players of lacking professionalism and disrespecting the Europa League after crashing out of the competition.

Spurs were leading 2-0 from the first leg but lost the last-16 tie after a hat-trick from Mislav Oršić at Stadion Maksimir, making it a miserable week for Mourinho after his side’s poor performance against Arsenal on Sunday. The Tottenham manager made an apology for his team's performance in Croatia.

"For me professionalism starts in the attitude. You must have attitude every day and every minute of every game, then more talent or less talent makes a difference but what is never negotiable is attitude and they beat us on attitude," said Mourinho.

"My team didn’t look like they were playing an important match and it is for me and the respect I have for my own career and job. I feel sorry that my team is the one that didn’t bring to the game not only the basics of football but the basics of life, which is to respect our jobs and give everything."

Tottenham great Glenn Hoddle, working as a pundit on BT Sport, branded the defeat diabolical and disastrous, with Mourinho saying his players must react to the criticism levelled at them.

"I don’t need Mr Hoddle’s words to hurt deeply from this. Sad is not enough. I respect everything that somebody connected or not connected with the club says about us. We have to accept it. The problem will be if they feel hurt or ashamed with the criticism. If you don’t feel it or care, that is a different problem," said Mourinho.

Mourinho says his players were fully prepared to face Oršić, the Croatia winger, but the difference was the attitude of the players.

"The first thing is to tell you is my players, they watched and watched and watched Oršić’s actions during his career," he said. "We prepared with the analysts’ clips and the goals Oršić scored, I saw them all and my players watched them all so I don’t know what to say, only that the first goal I watched it before, the second goal I watched it before and the third goal I watched it before.

"I gave them all the information about Oršić. That’s all I can say. Congratulations to him because it’s a great night for him.”

"Of course I’m concerned. We work very hard. We try to provide the best conditions for the players to perform, of course it concerns me. I believe we all have to be humble enough to accept any criticism that you can make of our work. But it’s not for me to go on that.

"They left sweat, energy, blood. In the end they left even tears of happiness. I can only apologise to the Tottenham supporters. I hope they feel the same way I feel. Today is live or die and in this moment we die. In some other matches I have the same feeling. Until the last day of the season we have to try and do our best."
 
Rogers would take it all day long. Leicester won't last, players will get picked off and at some point Vardy is too old (34 now, 3 years older than Bale as perspective)

If he got them into CL this year, he'd be smart to get to fudge out as quickly as possible to next gig ..

I think he would jump at the chance to be honest, its been a hard season but once we can open up the stadium again ( and we will) the money we will generate will enable us to compete on transfers at the top level. Rodgers is a man who loves himself ( and probably holds his own hand] and would realish the chance to come here imo.
 
I still believe Pochs biggest achievement was uniting the club. Everyone was for that period pulling in the same direction and we have that so rarely in our history

Good point. Even towards the end of his reign there was very little (if any) dissent towards him. Our fans are not known for being patient but even when we lost big games people never really went after him. He did unite the club without question.
 
I can’t believe no one is mentioning the obvious Levy choice.

CL winner
UEFA Cup winner
La Liga winner
FA Cup Winner
Has managed some of the biggest clubs in Europe
And, most importantly of all, unemployed and therefore relatively cheap and available...everything that Daniel wants.


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...and who plays the same type of football as Mourinho

Worse according to a Geordie mate, when he was at Saudi Sportswashing Machine he used to play 10 players at the back in most games. Those who are screaming the loudest to get rid of Jose because of his football would cut their own throats watching a BENETIZ. team.
 
I can’t believe no one is mentioning the obvious Levy choice.

CL winner
UEFA Cup winner
La Liga winner
FA Cup Winner
Has managed some of the biggest clubs in Europe
And, most importantly of all, unemployed and therefore relatively cheap and available...everything that Daniel wants.


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All these discussions about different names, who we think the club would like, who we think the club should like are all moot now.

We know the club will go for nagelsmann if they decide to make a change and we know nagelsmann will take the job.

The only question that remains is whether Levy will decide to act or not.
 
All these discussions about different names, who we think the club would like, who we think the club should like are all moot now.

We know the club will go for nagelsmann if they decide to make a change and we know nagelsmann will take the job.

The only question that remains is whether Levy will decide to act or not.
Do we? How certain are you of this?
 
All these discussions about different names, who we think the club would like, who we think the club should like are all moot now.

We know the club will go for nagelsmann if they decide to make a change and we know nagelsmann will take the job.

The only question that remains is whether Levy will decide to act or not.

You’ve obviously got connections at boardroom level. Any chance of you getting me one of the comfy seats for the first game when we’re allowed back?
 
I think it's reasonable to believe that we're interested in Nagelsmann, he's the "next big thing" afterall - but I'm not totally convinced that he'll want to join us if there are other offers out there as well. But we'll see. I think he's exciting, and one we could take a chance on - I reckon a lot of our players could blossom under his style of play and from what I've gathered his man-management - he's a new school coach, probably better suited to levelling and coaching these youngsters in some respect. But who knows. I'd welcome him with open arms.
 
This is the set up Nagelsmann had at Hoffenheim

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Yes they did get FIFA running on it.
 
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