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Daniel Levy - Chairman

nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
The issue here is youve assumed a position on Levy, only to then argue against it. All very conveniently wrapped up in the narrative youve constructed.

The problem I have reading it is this.

Has Levy ever struck you (or anyone) as not being prepared? Or as being so egotistical he thinks he can control the like of Mourinho?

I have to say, for me, the answer to both is a flat NO. Which leaves the rest of your post unravelling as I read it.
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This is based on a pretty shaky early assumption on your part, which is that Levy has never come across as unprepared or too self-assured for his own good.

I happen to disagree, which, in turn, basically invalidates your post as well.

I absolutely think Levy has come across as unprepared multiple times - in fact, I think he's been unprepared for both the early arrival of CL football and the resulting increase in stature of the club (ahead of schedule for him) and the explosion in transfer prices amidst a football market in which relationship-building is now taking precedence over being the tightest negotiator possible.

For the former, he's continued to act like the club we were in 2004, in 2009 and in 2014 - basically sell-to-buy, get a bargain on deadline day, let the manager make do with whatever scraps he can get with that approach. Which has led to the burnout and loss of a great manager - the best we have had in 50 years. Those methods need to end.

For the latter, he's preserved his reputation for being a supremely tight negotiator who preserves his assets, but football has moved beyond the prices he's willing to pay. Which has left us mired in inaction for 95% of the transfer window, and slow to action when we do get our wallet out.

So, I really don't agree with the essential premise of your post, which makes the rest a bit moot. Again, like all executives, he certainly has strengths, but he also has weaknesses - one of those weaknesses is his fondness for being relentlessly cheap in the transfer market, often to our detriment. Which I'm convinced won't work going forward.
 
Raziel said:
Mate the stadium and area project was not done on the cheap
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Sure mate, but I've taken care to mention the on-pitch side of things. Lest folks forget, I was (and am) fully willing to give Leby enormous amounts of credit for the work he did with the stadium. But his miserliness on the field has been an issue for 20 years, and he cannot make it work anymore - at least, imo. Poch was willing to take his foibles, and I believe Mourinho won't.
 
Hootnow said:
By turnover, where we find ourselves in the football hierarchy is 10th in the world. We need to get out of this meteorology where we've convinced ourselves we're paupers. I'm convinced we could be the 5th richest club in the world, 3rd in the league and we'd still be complaining about our disadvantaged position in the league.

Someone mentioned a section they found concerning, this is actually what I found slightly concerning in that interview:



I mean....what? Is this what he genuinely thinks? That clubs abroad don't like spending money?
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I believe that comment was more that a clubs ambition in Europe may not be judged on their spending. In England we’re obsessed with transfers, we really are.

And on turnover I’m convinced this year with the earlier stadium ticket income we will be top 7. Difference of course is ours is legit income too
 
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Yeah, whatever, you Levy critics.

Is there another football executive you'd rather have in charge of Spurs at the present moment? If so, do be a dove and advise the rest of us Levy-appreciating idiots on who should be running Spurs and what they would/should be doing to advance our position.

You could float a fleet of Zeppelins on the hot air blown at Levy, but if you haven't got a constructive alternative for who should replace him and how they should operate, git tae fock.
 
greatwhitenorf said:
Yeah, whatever, you Levy critics.

Is there another football executive you'd rather have in charge of Spurs at the present moment? If so, do be a dove and advise the rest of us Levy-appreciating idiots on who should be running Spurs and what they would/should be doing to advance our position.

You could float a fleet of Zeppelins on the hot air blown at Levy, but if you haven't got a constructive alternative for who should replace him and how they should operate, git tae fock.
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Unhappiness about the Mourinho appointment isn’t quite like whining about transfer spend, though. The club’s business strategy is down to ENIC; insiders are far better placed to judge the worth of players. But anyone who has spent a bit of time in complex organisations knows the perils of putting a narcissist in at the top. All you need is a moral compass and some attention to Jose’s history to be pretty certain that it’s going to end in tears.
 
ShipOfGoldblum said:
Unhappiness about the Mourinho appointment isn’t quite like whining about transfer spend, though. The club’s business strategy is down to ENIC; insiders are far better placed to judge the worth of players. But anyone who has spent a bit of time in complex organisations knows the perils of putting a narcissist in at the top. All you need is a moral compass and some attention to Jose’s history to be pretty certain that it’s going to end in tears.
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The same history suggests he’ll almost certainly leave after winning a couple of trophies as well though, no?

About 99.9% of managerial regimes end in tears, it’s the nature of it. Poch, Wenger, etc. Hero’s at their clubs yet it still ended in tears.
 
ShipOfGoldblum said:
Unhappiness about the Mourinho appointment isn’t quite like whining about transfer spend, though. The club’s business strategy is down to ENIC; insiders are far better placed to judge the worth of players. But anyone who has spent a bit of time in complex organisations knows the perils of putting a narcissist in at the top. All you need is a moral compass and some attention to Jose’s history to be pretty certain that it’s going to end in tears.
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Then ditch the moral compass and enjoy the ride!

(Narcissists are the best)
 
DubaiSpur said:
This is based on a pretty shaky early assumption on your part, which is that Levy has never come across as unprepared or too self-assured for his own good.

I happen to disagree, which, in turn, basically invalidates your post as well.

I absolutely think Levy has come across as unprepared multiple times - in fact, I think he's been unprepared for both the early arrival of CL football and the resulting increase in stature of the club (ahead of schedule for him) and the explosion in transfer prices amidst a football market in which relationship-building is now taking precedence over being the tightest negotiator possible.

For the former, he's continued to act like the club we were in 2004, in 2009 and in 2014 - basically sell-to-buy, get a bargain on deadline day, let the manager make do with whatever scraps he can get with that approach. Which has led to the burnout and loss of a great manager - the best we have had in 50 years. Those methods need to end.

For the latter, he's preserved his reputation for being a supremely tight negotiator who preserves his assets, but football has moved beyond the prices he's willing to pay. Which has left us mired in inaction for 95% of the transfer window, and slow to action when we do get our wallet out.

So, I really don't agree with the essential premise of your post, which makes the rest a bit moot. Again, like all executives, he certainly has strengths, but he also has weaknesses - one of those weaknesses is his fondness for being relentlessly cheap in the transfer market, often to our detriment. Which I'm convinced won't work going forward.
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I cannot fathom how anyone can see what Levy has done at this club and come to the conclusion he is unprepared and over confident.

I think people take it for granted, to be honest, and so zero in on nitpicky details as if they mean a thing in the scheme of things (they dont).

Since he came to the club to now, well lets be honest - I really shouldnt have to spell it out. Though I would encourage perhaps a little reflection in case youve forgotten the journey we have been on.

Needless to say, then to now is a remarkable - near miraculous - journey of improvement.

All driven by one man with the foresight, vision, determination, nous and balls to dream it up and see it through.

Yet youve manged to over look the grand scheme to decide you can predict how unprepared and over inflated Levys ego is in excited anticipation of troubles ahead.

Where I think you are right, is at the very core of this one we simply wont agree.
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
I cannot fathom how anyone can see what Levy has done at this club and come to the conclusion he is unprepared and over confident.

I think people take it for granted, to be honest, and so zero in on nitpicky details as if they mean a thing in the scheme of things (they dont).

Since he came to the club to now, well lets be honest - I really shouldnt have to spell it out. Though I would encourage perhaps a little reflection in case youve forgotten the journey we have been on.

Needless to say, then to now is a remarkable - near miraculous - journey of improvement.

All driven by one man with the foresight, vision, determination, nous and balls to dream it up and see it through.

Yet youve manged to over look the grand scheme to decide you can predict how unprepared and over inflated Levys ego is in excited anticipation of troubles ahead.

Where I think you are right, is at the very core of this one we simply wont agree.
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Also, listen to the podcasts in the Perryman thread; when you hear the great man talk about Sugar's poisonous regime, you get such a massive surge of gratitude in your willy that Sugar sold out and Levy took over.
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
I cannot fathom how anyone can see what Levy has done at this club and come to the conclusion he is unprepared and over confident.

I think people take it for granted, to be honest, and so zero in on nitpicky details as if they mean a thing in the scheme of things (they dont).

Since he came to the club to now, well lets be honest - I really shouldnt have to spell it out. Though I would encourage perhaps a little reflection in case youve forgotten the journey we have been on.

Needless to say, then to now is a remarkable - near miraculous - journey of improvement.

All driven by one man with the foresight, vision, determination, nous and balls to dream it up and see it through.

Yet youve manged to over look the grand scheme to decide you can predict how unprepared and over inflated Levys ego is in excited anticipation of troubles ahead.

Where I think you are right, is at the very core of this one we simply wont agree.
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Listen to Jose's comments on Levy and the club

He was completely blown away by the details of our plan, and once he got to club, he's been amazed at how well run everything at the club is (and how he isn't required to do those things). This from a guy who has worked at the biggest clubs in the world.
 
thfcsteff said:
We should never forget how close we got to seeing Robert fudging Maxwell as our owner...
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Without a doubt, i know a lot of fans disliked Sugar but without him getting the club the chances are that Maxwell would have done and we would have been run into the ground.
 
Raziel said:
Listen to Jose's comments on Levy and the club

He was completely blown away by the details of our plan, and once he got to club, he's been amazed at how well run everything at the club is (and how he isn't required to do those things). This from a guy who has worked at the biggest clubs in the world.
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I really struggle with those fans who can not see this, i keep hearing that Jose will blow his top when/if he does not get players he wants. Its obvious that Jose has sat down with Levy and agreed what is needed, what he has for transfers and the way the club is going.

Sadly to say there will always be a FEW fans who will dig at Levy but that is their " hobby horse" and they have been riding it so long they can not get off it.
 
parklane1 said:
I really struggle with those fans who can not see this, i keep hearing that Jose will blow his top when/if he does not get players he wants. Its obvious that Jose has sat down with Levy and agreed what is needed, what he has for transfers and the way the club is going.

Sadly to say there will always be a FEW fans who will dig at Levy but that is their " hobby horse" and they have been riding it so long they can not get off it.
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Yeah. What happened at United has to be seen based on their resources and of course what Mourinho was promised when he took over. United had two good options going into what became his final season, back Mourinho with the players he wanted or get rid of him. They chose the nonsense middle path.

I also think that it we look back at signings under different managers and DoFs under Levy signings have depended to a reasonable extent on who was in charge. Redknapp is perhaps the standout example.

That's not to say that this isn't a potential source of conflict, as it would have been with just about every manager, as it is at most clubs.

From the press conferences it's clear that Mourinho know about our priorities (mostly younger players, want to succeed with academy players. If at some point he starts demanding differently Levy will have a choice on his hands. I just hope he doesn't choose to keep an unhappy Mourinho.
 
Speaking in an interview with Sky Sports, Mourinho was asked about whether he feels frustrated at Levy’s transfer policy, the Portuguese insisting that he is fully on board with the club’s plans.

“I’m relaxed because I got this club exactly as I was expecting,” the manager said.

“I expect to be asked about Daniel Levy saying we don’t plan to spend a lot, and people to ask if I’m upset.

“Will that upset me? No. I knew it, he told me! Everything was crystal clear, no secrets in any of the club’s plans, and this makes me happy.

“I don’t like being at a club and being surprised by things. Here there are no surprises.

“Would I prefer to have £300m in January? I wouldn’t. In January I don’t need players.”
 
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