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Fabio Paratici - Consultant

AdamB said:
How many examples of that can you think of (signing someone but it not being public)?
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Trippier, hence him getting fined for telling his mates to bet on it days before it was announced.

AM were trying to move Juanfran out at the same time.
 
Feels like we'll end up with the two Juve guys in, and 2-3 out on loan. Could really do with Paratici finding a CF for us...
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I have said a few times in the last couple of years and been ridiculed for it but we need to scout China.
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Have you looked at how china failed miserably at building a football empire? Xi jinping put massive efforts into developing a generation of players good enough to compete. Obviously didn't work with them getting spanked by the likes of viet nam. So they gave up.

Dunno what it is. You saw how they improved massively for the olympics but football just didn't work at all. Now he's told the chinese businesses to withdraw from european football ownership or at least limit their spending.
 
Lilbaz said:
Have you looked at how china failed miserably at building a football empire? Xi jinping put massive efforts into developing a generation of players good enough to compete. Obviously didn't work with them getting spanked by the likes of viet nam. So they gave up.

Dunno what it is. You saw how they improved massively for the olympics but football just didn't work at all. Now he's told the chinese businesses to withdraw from european football ownership or at least limit their spending.
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Because the next Kevin bo will be amazing for our sponsorship deals. Got to be one amongst 7 billion of them.
 
Lilbaz said:
Have you looked at how china failed miserably at building a football empire? Xi jinping put massive efforts into developing a generation of players good enough to compete. Obviously didn't work with them getting spanked by the likes of viet nam. So they gave up.

Dunno what it is. You saw how they improved massively for the olympics but football just didn't work at all. Now he's told the chinese businesses to withdraw from european football ownership or at least limit their spending.
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You won't see it now. You'll see it a decade to two decades from now.

The essential problem is not that China doesn't have talented footballers - it has just as many as any other East Asian nation per capita. The problem is, at its heart, that societal preferences in China have historically steered kids away from football as a career or passion, so these kids rarely go pro.

There are other problems, of course - corruption, the poor regulation/oversight of Chinese sport writ large, the constantly shifting regulations that have regularly resulted in bankruptcies and clubs folding up and down the Chinese game. But the largest is a cultural one - kids in China are not brought up to regard football as a potentially respectable career option.

The government trying to set up 50,000 'special football schools' by 2025 is a top-down approach to forcing culture change, trying to get kids interested in the sport, and in sport more broadly, as a viable career choice.But until now, as a newly industrialized economy with a burgeoning middle class, the culture for kids in China has largely seen sports as secondary to academic achievement first and foremost as a means to prosperity. For middle-class and upper-class kids, this means parent spending is focused on kids' academic growth over sporting pursuits. For poor kids, sport is generally ignored as a vehicle for social mobility. And the result is that sport just struggles to be seen as a viable route to prosperity - at least as much as professional achievement.

You see the same thing in India - apart from cricket, sport writ large is not something ambitious middle-class parents prioritize for their kids, and poor kids have no route into the small professional sports setup in India. Societal respectability for sport as a career option/life pursuit is generally far below the societal worth of being a doctor, engineer, etc.

The good news for China (and India, further down the line), is that the history of developed East Asian economies with high HDIs (South Korea and Japan first and foremost) show that a football culture does emerge once a country stabilizes as upper-to-high income for a sufficient period. In general, as the transition to a developed service economy accelerates, various new career options start being seen as 'acceptable' or 'respectable', including sport - and once that happens, good footballers start to go pro and a culture develops, making it self-sustaining.

So, to bring it to an end, Spurs scouts shouldn't be looking at China because of its football scene now. But its football scene in 20 years will be generating Sons, Nakamuras, Kagawas and Kim Min-Jaes with regularity, because of the transition to developed status and service/consumption-oriented economy happening right now that mean young kids are growing to see football as a more viable career path.

And, likewise, Spurs scouts should be looking at India for what its sport scene will look like 30 to 40 years from now, imo.
 
That article says "...regional academy scouts for the north west, north and south Yorkshire ... The jobs, which all close on February 2, require the scouts to "attend matches within the designated geographical area and identify young players who have the quality to play for Tottenham Hotspur Football Club’s academy squads", "to build up detailed knowledge of talented players in an area – including in Category 1, 2 and 3 academies – as identified by the academy recruitment department" and to "identify the best U16 players released by category 1 academies in the region"

So talk of China and whatnot is a bit wide of the mark. This is sniffing around the academies of Tranmere, Sunderland, Accrington, Barnsley, Crewe, Hull etc. and trying to entice* their best players to switch to Spurs' academy instead.
*This always used to be a free house near Spurs, not sure that is allowed or needed any more. Basically allow those clubs to find the talent and get them playing games, then we swing in and give them a Rolex and some blarney about playing in the Prem like Winksy and Skippy.
 
Bullet said:
That article says "...regional academy scouts for the north west, north and south Yorkshire ... The jobs, which all close on February 2, require the scouts to "attend matches within the designated geographical area and identify young players who have the quality to play for Tottenham Hotspur Football Club’s academy squads", "to build up detailed knowledge of talented players in an area – including in Category 1, 2 and 3 academies – as identified by the academy recruitment department" and to "identify the best U16 players released by category 1 academies in the region"

So talk of China and whatnot is a bit wide of the mark. This is sniffing around the academies of Tranmere, Sunderland, Accrington, Barnsley, Crewe, Hull etc. and trying to entice* their best players to switch to Spurs' academy instead.
*This always used to be a free house near Spurs, not sure that is allowed or needed any more. Basically allow those clubs to find the talent and get them playing games, then we swing in and give them a Rolex and some blarney about playing in the Prem like Winksy and Skippy.
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Oh yeah, the article has nothing to do with global scouting. And don't get me wrong, we should start scouting more across the UK on an ongoing basis.

But, longer-term, the best clubs are setting up global development networks with feeder clubs across the world to shuttle the best players to, in anticipation of the growth of global football talent in the future.

As with most things, Spurs actually tried that first but it sort of died - if I recall, we tried feeder club agreements with clubs in Belgium (Standard Liege?) Czechia, Brazil (that club Sandro came from) the US (Seattle Sounders, iirc?) and elsewhere. But somewhere down the line, that setup just fell apart.

The ADUG group of football clubs fronted by City will be in competition with the Saudi-owned group of clubs fronted by Saudi Sportswashing Machine and (potentially) Inter eventually, while clubs like Atletico have been setting up sister clubs left and right (including in India and China, iirc). Red Bull have also been setting up a global network.

We need to get on that again, imo.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Oh yeah, the article has nothing to do with global scouting. And don't get me wrong, we should start scouting more across the UK on an ongoing basis.

But, longer-term, the best clubs are setting up global development networks with feeder clubs across the world to shuttle the best players to, in anticipation of the growth of global football talent in the future.

As with most things, Spurs actually tried that first but it sort of died - if I recall, we tried feeder club agreements with clubs in Belgium (Standard Liege?) Czechia, Brazil (that club Sandro came from) the US (Seattle Sounders, iirc?) and elsewhere. But somewhere down the line, that setup just fell apart.

The ADUG group of football clubs fronted by City will be in competition with the Saudi-owned group of clubs fronted by Saudi Sportswashing Machine and (potentially) Inter eventually, while clubs like Atletico have been setting up sister clubs left and right (including in India and China, iirc). Red Bull have also been setting up a global network.

We need to get on that again, imo.
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Was thinking about that earlier. Who was the south african defender we got when we linked up with a club over there? Name slips my mind as does the club.
 
Lilbaz said:
Was thinking about that earlier. Who was the south african defender we got when we linked up with a club over there? Name slips my mind as does the club.
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Bongani Khumalo. I remember that bloke, and Souleymane Coulibaly, and that Spanish bloke who signed for us around the same time. Collectively, they looked like the great hopes for our youth recruitment in the early 2010s, while Kane was still blundering his way through disappointing loans.

How times changed. :p
 
DubaiSpur said:
Bongani Khumalo. I remember that bloke, and Souleymane Coulibaly, and that Spanish bloke who signed for us around the same time. Collectively, they looked like the great hopes for our youth recruitment in the early 2010s, while Kane was still blundering his way through disappointing loans.

How times changed. :p
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Yes you are right , sorry @harr1984 mabizela we signed after a tour. Khumalo was the link of clubs.
 
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