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Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by markysimmo, 27 Feb 2020.

  1. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Jimmy Neighbour

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    I understand clearly, as do most. You're a self-involved, uncompassionate clam.
     
  2. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Jimmy McCormick

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    I was joking, akin to our 'jab and go' Ryanair friends
     
  3. milo

    milo Jack L. Jones Staff Member

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    Thread on Covid disinformation

     
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  4. milo

    milo Jack L. Jones Staff Member

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  5. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    Israel if they carry on at the same rate would have vaccinated over half of their over 65's within a couple of days
     
  6. johnola

    johnola Andy Sinton

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    I heard only Arteta could do a worse job organising a load of pricks.
     
  7. scaramanga

    scaramanga Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    That I am, but I still dont believe you're keeping up.
     
  8. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    Bring back Harold Shipman !!
     
  9. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Luka Modric

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  10. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Chris Armstrong

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    To paraphrase your pandemic greatest hits to date:

    - The Swedish approach is the right one (now has one of the highest per capita death rates in the world; Swedish king feels moved to make extremely rare intervention; Swedish government changes tack)
    - Protect the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life (policy not adopted by a single country in the world and viewed as unworkable by the vast majority of scientists)
    - Let the virus run its natural course (many UK hospitals now under severe strain again, and NHS staff struggling to cope with a second wave in which numbers are rising rapidly - this despite significant interventions)
    - Autumnal infection rates high in the north and low in the south because the virus was probably moving through the south of England earlier in the year without anyone being aware and there is now a level of herd immunity there (check out the news this evening)
    - How can people in Taiwan/South Korea/Australia/New Zealand etc bear these extended restrictions to their freedoms? (Life in these countries has largely returned to something approaching normal; large swathes of England face months in further lockdown)
    - Schools won’t close for any longer than the Christmas holidays as the government realise this had terrible economic ramifications in the last lockdown (I think we can all see where that is headed)

    I could go on, but you get the jist, I’m sure.

    So you’ll perhaps understand if I don’t invest too much thought in your theories around Nightingale Hospitals. :D
     
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  11. scaramanga

    scaramanga Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    And all of that stands for anyone with the balls to go through with it.

    Unfortunately the general public are prone to panic and hysteria (see number of people who claim to be afraid of the virus in opinion polls). That doesn't work for elected officials as for a generation now, public opinion holds more value than fact.
     
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    Mikey10 Chris Armstrong

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    So the majority of the world’s governments and scientific communities are wrong, and you are right.

    Okkkkkkayyyy...you do realise what one major definition of madness is, right? :rolleyes:
     
  13. scaramanga

    scaramanga Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    Actually I'd phrase it as "All the governments of the world are concerned with re-election and I'm not" coupled with "Epidemiologists work in a very limited field and are not concerned with more important aspects such as the economy."
     
  14. Rorschach

    Rorschach Tony Galvin

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    But on the other hand, money.
     
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    scaramanga Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    ...and providing food for one's family and all the other stuff it pays for.
     
  16. P.D.

    P.D. Vedran Corluka

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    AZ said there's some evidence it reduces transmission but didn't provide any other details.
     
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    milo Jack L. Jones Staff Member

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    My understanding is that they weren't testing for it specifically and it would probably take longer and be harder to test for. Any reduction would be helpful right now.
     
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    LutonSpurs Eric Dear

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    Let's be fair. The vast majority of Epidemiologists have been consistent about the need for schools to remain open as much as possible. And this government hasn't acted on their advice quickly or consistently. If you want to see a country where they have listened then look at Australia where they have large crowds at the Boxing day test. The economy there is up and running and they have minimised the loss of life of their most vulnerable.
     
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    johnola Andy Sinton

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    ah that’s a point.
     
  20. scaramanga

    scaramanga Fanny Walden Staff Member

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    Australia has all kinds of advantages to stopping the spread of something like this:

    • Their country is mainly sheep
    • If you can't fly it's pretty much not worth moving between population centres
    • If you do drive, there's not many roads between the areas zoned off
    • Their inhabitants are happy to act like good little sheep when their govt tells them to
    • It's summer
    Compare that to the UK, where a supermarket was simultaneously in zones 2 & 4.
     

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