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Champions League And Europa League Changes

UEFA expected to approve Champions League reform next Wednesday

UEFA's executive committee are expected to approve a reform to the Champions League next Wednesday.

The new format will follow the 'Swiss model' and see the competition expanded to 36 teams.

The Athletic understands there is to be an increase from six to 10 guaranteed games in the new format, which will be introduced post-2024.

What is the Swiss model?
It is a new format for the Champions League after this current cycle of the competition, which ends in 2024.

The 32-team group stage would be eliminated. Instead, there would be a 36-team ‘Swiss model’ league, in which each club will play 10 games: five at home, five away.

The fixtures will be based on seedings and the teams will be ranked from one to 36.

The top eight will advance automatically to a 16-team knockout round, and the next 16 teams will go into a play-off round to decide those final eight slots.

Who would the extra four places go to?
The UEFA proposal is to give one of the four new slots to the team that finishes fourth in the fifth-strongest league, which is currently France but Portugal is closing in.

That would mean the 'Big Five' leagues would all have four guaranteed places in the Champions League each.

European football's governing body is proposing to award the three other slots on the basis of historic performance in European competitions over the previous five seasons. This would provide a safety net for teams with strong European pedigrees that have relatively poor domestic seasons.

For example, one or more of the Premier League's 'Big Six' could finish in one of the Europa or Europa Conference League positions — fifth to seventh — and be promoted to the Champions League.

The European Leagues, which represents 36 domestic leagues in 30 countries, believes this is unfair and would distort domestic and European competitions.

They want those three extra slots to go to the domestic champions of leagues that currently have to come through the qualifying rounds.

This could mean the champions of countries such as Denmark, Scotland and Switzerland no longer have to play a tricky qualifying round to get to the Champions League.

What about the financial impact?
This is unclear. The financial distribution is probably not going to be settled next week.

The new format would mean Europe’s elite clubs playing each other more often and so there would be more high-profile matches.

That would appeal to broadcasters.

Is there anything else I need to know?
Yes. The European Leagues are concerned 10 guaranteed games is too many and that four extra exclusive mid-week matchdays would make life very difficult for domestic leagues and cups.

https://theathletic.com/news/uefa-champions-league-reform-latest/6JlYBNK13RPM
 
How will the 2024/25 competition change?

The pivotal change in the reforms announced by the UEFA Executive Committee after its meeting on 19 April 2021 is the departure from the current format’s opening 32-team group stage. The present Champions League season begins with participants divided into eight groups of four. From the 2024/25 season, there will be a single league made up of all 36 competing clubs. This will give four more sides the opportunity to compete against the best clubs in Europe.

Under the new format, teams will play four matches more than is currently the case. They will no longer play three opponents twice – home and away – but will instead face fixtures against 10 different teams, half of them at home and half of them away. This gives the opportunity for clubs to test themselves against a wider range of opponents – and also raises the prospect of fans seeing the top teams go head to head more often earlier in the competition. The new format should mean that there is more to play for right up until the final night of league action.

How will the four additional spots be allocated?

Qualification for the Champions League will continue to be open and depend on a club’s final position in the previous season’s domestic league competition. The additional four slots available in 2024/25 will be allocated according to three different criteria:

  • Slot one: awarded to a club from the country placed fifth in UEFA’s national association coefficient rankings. Each association's coefficient is based on the results of its clubs’ performances in five previous Champions League and Europa League seasons.
  • Slot two: awarded to the domestic league champion with the highest club coefficient among all other domestic champions that have not automatically qualified for the Champions League’s league stage.
  • Slots three and four: awarded to the two clubs with the highest club coefficients that have not qualified automatically for the Champions League’s league stage, but have qualified either for the Champions League qualification phase or the Europa League/the Europa Conference League (due to start in the 2021/22 season).
How will the last 16 take shape?

The results of each match will decide the overall ranking in the new league, with three points for a win and one for a draw still applying.

While the top eight teams will advance automatically to the round of 16, those sides placed between ninth and 24th will enter a play-off round. Those who finished between ninth and 16th will be seeded in the play-off draw, meaning they will face a team placed 17th to 24th – with home advantage in the second-leg match. Teams who finish 25th or lower will be eliminated, with no access to the UEFA Europa League.

The eight clubs who prevail in the play-offs will then progress to the round of 16 where they will each face one of the top-eight finishers.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1384499431249047556

I can see coefficient based entries to the different European competitions becoming more prevalent in the future. You qualify through your league position or by winning a cup and get placed in the competition most suited to your ranking.

Say top 20 teams go straight to the CL. The rest have to go through qualifying rounds.
 
Seeing the protests at Chelsea today, I almost died laughing when I seen this sign doing the rounds:

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Selective memory or what!?
 
3DSpur said:
Seeing the protests at Chelsea today, I almost died laughing when I seen this sign doing the rounds:

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Selective memory or what!?
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They probably signed up as fans when Chelski started to win stuff, and didn't bother to read up about the past.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1510232485271117826

The new proposals will see the two extra places in a new 36-team Champions League awarded on co-efficient from 2024 - the formula that Uefa uses to measure historic success in the competition. The Champions League places will be awarded to the two non-qualified clubs ranked highest on the Uefa co-efficient list, as long as they have either finished one league place outside the Champions League spots in their own domestic league, or won their domestic cup.

Applying the rules being proposed for post-2024 to last season, 2020/2021, would have seen Shakhtar Donetsk and Lyon qualify for the Champions League via the co-efficient path. Shakhtar finished second in the Ukraine Premier League, one place outside the single Champions League spot awarded to the winner. Lyon finished fourth in Ligue 1. From 2024, France will have three Champions League spots, which would leave Lyon just outside those places. Of the non-qualified teams, Shakhtar and Lyon had the best co-efficient.

Applying the post-2024 rules to the 2019/2020 season would have seen Arsenal qualify for the Champions League by virtue of their 2020 FA Cup triumph. Although the club finished eighth in the Premier League, the domestic cup victory would have brought a strong co-efficient into play. Roma would have been the other co-efficient qualified team. They finished fifth in Serie A that season and under post-2024 rules Italy will have four Champions League places.
 
Jordinho said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1510232485271117826

The new proposals will see the two extra places in a new 36-team Champions League awarded on co-efficient from 2024 - the formula that Uefa uses to measure historic success in the competition. The Champions League places will be awarded to the two non-qualified clubs ranked highest on the Uefa co-efficient list, as long as they have either finished one league place outside the Champions League spots in their own domestic league, or won their domestic cup.

Applying the rules being proposed for post-2024 to last season, 2020/2021, would have seen Shakhtar Donetsk and Lyon qualify for the Champions League via the co-efficient path. Shakhtar finished second in the Ukraine Premier League, one place outside the single Champions League spot awarded to the winner. Lyon finished fourth in Ligue 1. From 2024, France will have three Champions League spots, which would leave Lyon just outside those places. Of the non-qualified teams, Shakhtar and Lyon had the best co-efficient.

Applying the post-2024 rules to the 2019/2020 season would have seen Arsenal qualify for the Champions League by virtue of their 2020 FA Cup triumph. Although the club finished eighth in the Premier League, the domestic cup victory would have brought a strong co-efficient into play. Roma would have been the other co-efficient qualified team. They finished fifth in Serie A that season and under post-2024 rules Italy will have four Champions League places.
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I know why they are doing it (more viewers more money). But how the hell do you justify it?

If say burnley won the fa cup but got denied, sure they would have grounds to take it to court. Under anti competition laws.
 
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Clubs keen to explore Champions League games outside Europe

This week brings the latest meeting of UEFA’s executive committee on the Croatian island of Hvar, before the general assembly of the European Club Association (ECA) in Istanbul later in the week, writes Adam Crafton.

The ECA represents the interests of clubs that regularly compete in European football’s major competitions, such as UEFA’s Champions League. At these conferences, executives come together to explore ways in which they can grow the sport and drive revenues.

One option favoured by some of the most powerful club executives in European football involves taking Champions League games outside of the continent to make meaningful games more accessible to the clubs’ global fanbases.

The Paris Saint-Germain president Nasser Al-Khelaifi, who also chairs the ECA and is a member of UEFA’s executive committee, is among those supportive of such discussions, with leading club executives open to fixtures taking place in major markets such as the US, China or the Middle East.

It remains only an idea rather than policy, and any moves to take the competition abroad would likely be met with opposition from fans in Europe. However, sources close to the discussions said initial steps would surround early group games rather than high-stakes knockout matches.

Another option to take outside of Europe may be the Super Cup — the meeting between the previous season’s Champions League and Europa League winners. UEFA is already considering the introduction of a four-team mini-tournament at the start of each season, which would include the previous season’s Champions League winners and three other leading teams in what would be referred to as the “Opening Tournament”.

Following the failure of the Super League project last year, UEFA conceded more power to clubs when it embarked on a joint venture with the ECA to identify marketing partners to sell commercial rights for European club competitions in the 2024-27 cycle.

In February this year, UEFA and the ECA appointed Team Marketing and Relevent Sports Group as sales partners for the men’s club competitions.

In March, Al-Khelaifi said they had seen an “amazing 39 per cent increase in the forecasted commercial value of the men’s UEFA club competitions for the post-2024 cycle”. The first three markets that have gone to tender have produced significant revenue growth — an increase of 20 per cent in the UK, 25 per cent in France and 150 per cent in the US (excluding Spanish-language rights, which are still to be sold).

The case for taking matches abroad was underlined when the ECA last week released research on the changing nature of football fandom. It demonstrated survey results that claimed 34 per cent of football fans in China and 28 per cent in the US were influenced by a major competition or event to start following football.

The report added: “This highlights that there are opportunities for European clubs and competitions to build on this interest and influence; to increase the availability of European club football to these audiences and allow exposure to these events to continue building further and deeper interest and engagement.”

Sources close to discussions insisted there is no harm in ideas being debated and say the UEFA and ECA joint venture is the type of environment in which new ideas on the commercial side should be discussed at a time when clubs are looking for new revenue sources post-COVID-19.

This week’s ECA summit will also host Stefano Domenicali, the CEO of Formula 1, as European football seeks to learn lessons and hear expertise from sports that have grown their audiences substantially in the US in recent times. Previous recent summits have featured talks from experts from the Harvard Business School, as well as the former Liverpool chief executive Peter Moore delivering a session on opportunities relating to the metaverse.

https://theathletic.com/3601367/2022/09/19/mintzlaff-chelsea-champions-league-us/
 
Denmark Spur said:
:mad: :mad: :mad:

Clubs keen to explore Champions League games outside Europe

This week brings the latest meeting of UEFA’s executive committee on the Croatian island of Hvar, before the general assembly of the European Club Association (ECA) in Istanbul later in the week, writes Adam Crafton.

The ECA represents the interests of clubs that regularly compete in European football’s major competitions, such as UEFA’s Champions League. At these conferences, executives come together to explore ways in which they can grow the sport and drive revenues.

One option favoured by some of the most powerful club executives in European football involves taking Champions League games outside of the continent to make meaningful games more accessible to the clubs’ global fanbases.

The Paris Saint-Germain president Nasser Al-Khelaifi, who also chairs the ECA and is a member of UEFA’s executive committee, is among those supportive of such discussions, with leading club executives open to fixtures taking place in major markets such as the US, China or the Middle East.

It remains only an idea rather than policy, and any moves to take the competition abroad would likely be met with opposition from fans in Europe. However, sources close to the discussions said initial steps would surround early group games rather than high-stakes knockout matches.

Another option to take outside of Europe may be the Super Cup — the meeting between the previous season’s Champions League and Europa League winners. UEFA is already considering the introduction of a four-team mini-tournament at the start of each season, which would include the previous season’s Champions League winners and three other leading teams in what would be referred to as the “Opening Tournament”.

Following the failure of the Super League project last year, UEFA conceded more power to clubs when it embarked on a joint venture with the ECA to identify marketing partners to sell commercial rights for European club competitions in the 2024-27 cycle.

In February this year, UEFA and the ECA appointed Team Marketing and Relevent Sports Group as sales partners for the men’s club competitions.

In March, Al-Khelaifi said they had seen an “amazing 39 per cent increase in the forecasted commercial value of the men’s UEFA club competitions for the post-2024 cycle”. The first three markets that have gone to tender have produced significant revenue growth — an increase of 20 per cent in the UK, 25 per cent in France and 150 per cent in the US (excluding Spanish-language rights, which are still to be sold).

The case for taking matches abroad was underlined when the ECA last week released research on the changing nature of football fandom. It demonstrated survey results that claimed 34 per cent of football fans in China and 28 per cent in the US were influenced by a major competition or event to start following football.

The report added: “This highlights that there are opportunities for European clubs and competitions to build on this interest and influence; to increase the availability of European club football to these audiences and allow exposure to these events to continue building further and deeper interest and engagement.”

Sources close to discussions insisted there is no harm in ideas being debated and say the UEFA and ECA joint venture is the type of environment in which new ideas on the commercial side should be discussed at a time when clubs are looking for new revenue sources post-COVID-19.

This week’s ECA summit will also host Stefano Domenicali, the CEO of Formula 1, as European football seeks to learn lessons and hear expertise from sports that have grown their audiences substantially in the US in recent times. Previous recent summits have featured talks from experts from the Harvard Business School, as well as the former Liverpool chief executive Peter Moore delivering a session on opportunities relating to the metaverse.

https://theathletic.com/3601367/2022/09/19/mintzlaff-chelsea-champions-league-us/
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Not a surprise, and considering we benefit from similar wiyh the NFL we're not in a position to complain to much.
 
Denmark Spur said:
:mad: :mad: :mad:

Clubs keen to explore Champions League games outside Europe

This week brings the latest meeting of UEFA’s executive committee on the Croatian island of Hvar, before the general assembly of the European Club Association (ECA) in Istanbul later in the week, writes Adam Crafton.

The ECA represents the interests of clubs that regularly compete in European football’s major competitions, such as UEFA’s Champions League. At these conferences, executives come together to explore ways in which they can grow the sport and drive revenues.

One option favoured by some of the most powerful club executives in European football involves taking Champions League games outside of the continent to make meaningful games more accessible to the clubs’ global fanbases.

The Paris Saint-Germain president Nasser Al-Khelaifi, who also chairs the ECA and is a member of UEFA’s executive committee, is among those supportive of such discussions, with leading club executives open to fixtures taking place in major markets such as the US, China or the Middle East.

It remains only an idea rather than policy, and any moves to take the competition abroad would likely be met with opposition from fans in Europe. However, sources close to the discussions said initial steps would surround early group games rather than high-stakes knockout matches.

Another option to take outside of Europe may be the Super Cup — the meeting between the previous season’s Champions League and Europa League winners. UEFA is already considering the introduction of a four-team mini-tournament at the start of each season, which would include the previous season’s Champions League winners and three other leading teams in what would be referred to as the “Opening Tournament”.

Following the failure of the Super League project last year, UEFA conceded more power to clubs when it embarked on a joint venture with the ECA to identify marketing partners to sell commercial rights for European club competitions in the 2024-27 cycle.

In February this year, UEFA and the ECA appointed Team Marketing and Relevent Sports Group as sales partners for the men’s club competitions.

In March, Al-Khelaifi said they had seen an “amazing 39 per cent increase in the forecasted commercial value of the men’s UEFA club competitions for the post-2024 cycle”. The first three markets that have gone to tender have produced significant revenue growth — an increase of 20 per cent in the UK, 25 per cent in France and 150 per cent in the US (excluding Spanish-language rights, which are still to be sold).

The case for taking matches abroad was underlined when the ECA last week released research on the changing nature of football fandom. It demonstrated survey results that claimed 34 per cent of football fans in China and 28 per cent in the US were influenced by a major competition or event to start following football.

The report added: “This highlights that there are opportunities for European clubs and competitions to build on this interest and influence; to increase the availability of European club football to these audiences and allow exposure to these events to continue building further and deeper interest and engagement.”

Sources close to discussions insisted there is no harm in ideas being debated and say the UEFA and ECA joint venture is the type of environment in which new ideas on the commercial side should be discussed at a time when clubs are looking for new revenue sources post-COVID-19.

This week’s ECA summit will also host Stefano Domenicali, the CEO of Formula 1, as European football seeks to learn lessons and hear expertise from sports that have grown their audiences substantially in the US in recent times. Previous recent summits have featured talks from experts from the Harvard Business School, as well as the former Liverpool chief executive Peter Moore delivering a session on opportunities relating to the metaverse.

https://theathletic.com/3601367/2022/09/19/mintzlaff-chelsea-champions-league-us/
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Wouldn't make sense to do it in the group or league stages. If you made some of the knockout rounds just 1 legged then maybe. Not going to be popular with european fans though.
You already have the world club cup and preseason tours. There is no need for this.
 
I think the only way it would work is if the competion made smaller and played in a set period of 4 weeks, the travelling time and differing time zones would make playing during a regular season very difficult.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I think the only way it would work is if the competion made smaller and played in a set period of 4 weeks, the travelling time and differing time zones would make playing during a regular season very difficult.
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Remember there was the idea of the semis to be one legged and played in the same week/city as the final? Think that was a build up to this.
 
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