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what has happened to the transfer section?
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braineclipse
Willie Hall
They did pay £24m for Bent, if that's their benchmark then no doubt Benteke is worth more than £25m!
If they stay up I could easily see them demand that kind of money for him when teams show an interest.
If they stay up I could easily see them demand that kind of money for him when teams show an interest.
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indianspur
Guest
they have every right to demand 25 mill
at that price i think Levy will politely walk away
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at that price i think Levy will politely walk away
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mjc23
Terry Fenwick
Always good to judge players after two games, but I think we should sign that Salah chap from last night. Not many players can outpace Walker and he seemed very comfortable on the ball.
Especially if Bale (hopefully still at Spurs) is going to play through the middle then we will have Lennon and Townsend as our wingers would give us good pace and width but having another player with speed would give us more options and wouldn't leave us as narrow as last night.
Especially if Bale (hopefully still at Spurs) is going to play through the middle then we will have Lennon and Townsend as our wingers would give us good pace and width but having another player with speed would give us more options and wouldn't leave us as narrow as last night.
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
I agree. Basle are no European minnows so he would have been playing at a good standard and I was personally incredibly impressed by his performances.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Well, he couldn't actually outpace Walker, but he did seem quick.
They mentioned on the Guardian football weekly podcast that someone from Switzerland had said that he wasn't a regular starter for Basel in the Swiss league. Whoscore only has him starting 9 out of 26 games for them this season, although I don't know if injuries have played a part. The claim on football weekly was that he was seen as primarily a counter attacking player and in the league Basel are often up against teams that park the bus so there were plenty of games where other players were more effective.
It's also been mentioned that he doesn't have a lot of end product, at least not in terms of goals. He has 4 goals in the league and one in the EL for them so not sure.
I doubt he would be cheap unless his contract is running short. Basel sold Granit Xhaka for around £7m and Shaqiri for closer to £10m last summer, wouldn't be surprised to see them ask a similar amount for another promising young player that's shown himself in a European competition. There will be other exciting young prospects to consider at that kind of money I think.
Not saying he's not a prospect and he did look impressive at times, just saying that I don't think saying "we should buy him" at this point is correct.
a spur from swansea
Naybet
arahavin to leave the goons officially in the summer on a free.
a typical levy signing in the making.
a typical levy signing in the making.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Don't be tempting fate now.
It's not even really typical Levy signing is it? Likely to be on high wages, no sell on value, yes he's on a free, but he's also been brick for a considerable time now. How many old, free, high wage signings have we made? Gallas, and...?
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
braineclipse
Willie Hall
High wages? Saha? Nelsen? No way.
High wages were probably the reason we didn't sign Joe Cole. And I don't think Gallas is on massive wages, certainly not as high as I imagine quite a few Russian clubs will offer Arshavin when he becomes available on a free.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2915...p-must-be-put-to-one-side-for-villas-boas-to-
Transfer brinkmanship must be put to one side for Villas-Boas to realise Tottenham's potential
SPECIAL REPORT
By Duncan Castles
The Portuguese boss has scraped by with a net spend of zero after pursuits for Joao Moutinho and Leandro Damiao both faltered on the final day of the last two transfer windows
There was a sense of inevitability as Emmanuel Adebayor hurried forward to scoop his penalty kick over the crossbar at St Jakob-Park. Sometimes unplayable, more often unreliable, Tottenham Hotspur's best paid footballer had suffered a night of consistently pursuing the wrong option. Ultimately it handed Andre Villas-Boas his first Europa League exit.
Just missing out on his second semi-final was an accident manufactured many months before. Villas-Boas identified Tottenham's need for an elite centre forward before accepting the manager's position last summer, yet his new employers' quixotic approach to transfers saw the club start the new season with a weaker attack than they ended the old one.
His White Hart Lane wages effectively subsidised by a vast pay-off from Emirates Marketing Project, Adebayor signed permanent terms on August 21. For all Jermain Defoe's improvement under Villas-Boas' tutelage, by winter it was clear that the club needed a striker with the physique to play up front alone and the capacity to score consistently.
The Portuguese was clear that this man was Leandro Damiao, a Brazil international who Tottenham had independently pursued for well over a year. The majority of the January window was spent waiting for Daniel Levy to be convinced of the value of investing heavily in the 23-year-old. On deadline day Internacional agreed to sell for £15.7 million. Then changed their mind.
With no time left to renegotiate and Levy piqued by such Brazilian brinkmanship, Villas-Boas was left to battle on with an unimproved squad. His situation was all the more frustrating for its familiarity – an almost carbon copy of Tottenham's failure to seal the deal for Joao Moutinho exactly five months before.
Like Damiao, Moutinho had been the manager's absolute priority. Like Damiao's, the transfer promised be an expensive, complex affair because Moutinho's club had no desire to lose him. And like Internacional, Porto's response to Levy's deadline-day negotiating was to first settle on a fee (of £22m plus £2.5m in variables), then increase their asking price as the clock ran down. When Tottenham met even that, some errant paperwork ensured the deal did not go through.
Though time-pressured bargaining has served Levy well in the past and appeals to the chairman's combative nature, it works better when the numbers are lower or he is seller rather shopper. Porto's elevated position in European football has been built upon their transfer market acumen and negotiations for individuals of Moutinho's quality can be too complex to be concertinaed into a single day.
The result of those two deadline-day failures is that Villas-Boas' debut season has been run on a zero net spend. This year's Tottenham are fitter, better prepared tactically and more maturely man managed than the squad Harry Redknapp fronted. With six matches to play they remain in position to qualify for the Champions League, combining an impressive domestic campaign with a serious tilt at the Europa League. Listen to Redknapp and you'd have thought such a strategy both impossible and worthless.
What happens next will be telling. Though he constantly researches options to strengthen his personnel, Villas-Boas has no set budget for next season. With Tottenham still seeking to finance White Hart Lane's rebuild, their manager expects his transfer spend to be determined by the presence (or not) of Champions League football and the club's success in securing a new shirt sponsor. The value of the commercial deal could be tied to the European competition Tottenham end up playing in.
Wherever they are Villas-Boas wants to retain Gareth Bale. The Welshman's agents have other ideas and have been preparing the ground for a move elsewhere – most keenly to Real Madrid – since long before Tottenham's change of management. Having improved Bale's game this season, Villas-Boas is excited by what could be achieved together in the Champions League. And he is also unconvinced that full revenues from a sale would be available for reinvestment.
Villas-Boas will once again pursue a striker (Aston Villa's Christian Benteke has been offered to the club but is far from being first choice). He believes the team would benefit from a playmaker in the mould of Willian, who was eager to work with him at Tottenham before Anzhi Makhachkala threw manic money at Shakhtar Donetsk for the Brazilian's January signature. His scouts have been looking at left-backs and a cadre of top-tier teenagers.
If Tottenham have learned their lesson they will not reach the sharp end of next season relying on a single, infamously flaky centre forward.
Transfer brinkmanship must be put to one side for Villas-Boas to realise Tottenham's potential
SPECIAL REPORT
By Duncan Castles
The Portuguese boss has scraped by with a net spend of zero after pursuits for Joao Moutinho and Leandro Damiao both faltered on the final day of the last two transfer windows
There was a sense of inevitability as Emmanuel Adebayor hurried forward to scoop his penalty kick over the crossbar at St Jakob-Park. Sometimes unplayable, more often unreliable, Tottenham Hotspur's best paid footballer had suffered a night of consistently pursuing the wrong option. Ultimately it handed Andre Villas-Boas his first Europa League exit.
Just missing out on his second semi-final was an accident manufactured many months before. Villas-Boas identified Tottenham's need for an elite centre forward before accepting the manager's position last summer, yet his new employers' quixotic approach to transfers saw the club start the new season with a weaker attack than they ended the old one.
His White Hart Lane wages effectively subsidised by a vast pay-off from Emirates Marketing Project, Adebayor signed permanent terms on August 21. For all Jermain Defoe's improvement under Villas-Boas' tutelage, by winter it was clear that the club needed a striker with the physique to play up front alone and the capacity to score consistently.
The Portuguese was clear that this man was Leandro Damiao, a Brazil international who Tottenham had independently pursued for well over a year. The majority of the January window was spent waiting for Daniel Levy to be convinced of the value of investing heavily in the 23-year-old. On deadline day Internacional agreed to sell for £15.7 million. Then changed their mind.
With no time left to renegotiate and Levy piqued by such Brazilian brinkmanship, Villas-Boas was left to battle on with an unimproved squad. His situation was all the more frustrating for its familiarity – an almost carbon copy of Tottenham's failure to seal the deal for Joao Moutinho exactly five months before.
Like Damiao, Moutinho had been the manager's absolute priority. Like Damiao's, the transfer promised be an expensive, complex affair because Moutinho's club had no desire to lose him. And like Internacional, Porto's response to Levy's deadline-day negotiating was to first settle on a fee (of £22m plus £2.5m in variables), then increase their asking price as the clock ran down. When Tottenham met even that, some errant paperwork ensured the deal did not go through.
Though time-pressured bargaining has served Levy well in the past and appeals to the chairman's combative nature, it works better when the numbers are lower or he is seller rather shopper. Porto's elevated position in European football has been built upon their transfer market acumen and negotiations for individuals of Moutinho's quality can be too complex to be concertinaed into a single day.
The result of those two deadline-day failures is that Villas-Boas' debut season has been run on a zero net spend. This year's Tottenham are fitter, better prepared tactically and more maturely man managed than the squad Harry Redknapp fronted. With six matches to play they remain in position to qualify for the Champions League, combining an impressive domestic campaign with a serious tilt at the Europa League. Listen to Redknapp and you'd have thought such a strategy both impossible and worthless.
What happens next will be telling. Though he constantly researches options to strengthen his personnel, Villas-Boas has no set budget for next season. With Tottenham still seeking to finance White Hart Lane's rebuild, their manager expects his transfer spend to be determined by the presence (or not) of Champions League football and the club's success in securing a new shirt sponsor. The value of the commercial deal could be tied to the European competition Tottenham end up playing in.
Wherever they are Villas-Boas wants to retain Gareth Bale. The Welshman's agents have other ideas and have been preparing the ground for a move elsewhere – most keenly to Real Madrid – since long before Tottenham's change of management. Having improved Bale's game this season, Villas-Boas is excited by what could be achieved together in the Champions League. And he is also unconvinced that full revenues from a sale would be available for reinvestment.
Villas-Boas will once again pursue a striker (Aston Villa's Christian Benteke has been offered to the club but is far from being first choice). He believes the team would benefit from a playmaker in the mould of Willian, who was eager to work with him at Tottenham before Anzhi Makhachkala threw manic money at Shakhtar Donetsk for the Brazilian's January signature. His scouts have been looking at left-backs and a cadre of top-tier teenagers.
If Tottenham have learned their lesson they will not reach the sharp end of next season relying on a single, infamously flaky centre forward.
NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
That is not remotely funny, so do not say thinks like that
NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
I have always thought that Levy has to take his share of the blame. The whole fukking world knows we need to sign an elite striker
And they all vastly overvalue their strikers. Since the rich started stockpiling, keeping players in the stands that would be starters for 90% of the other teams in their league, it's become much harder for the second tier clubs to identify and afford the players they need. As soon as s player becomes good enough he is snapped up by a big club. They probably don't need him, but better safe than sorry, and they can always send him on loan to a non-rival.
Add to this the fact that the kind of striker we need are an extremely rare breed. You can easily get a pure goalscorer or a lumbering targetman, but those that can do both are scarce.
Add to this the fact that the kind of striker we need are an extremely rare breed. You can easily get a pure goalscorer or a lumbering targetman, but those that can do both are scarce.
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indianspur
Guest
we need an injection of cash....50 mill should be enough to buy a striker, playmaker and possible left back if thats what AVB wants
come on Joe Lewis you tight ar$e
come on Joe Lewis you tight ar$e
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I asked an Egyptian mate about him. Nothing we couldn't see in those two legs, but he said he might be ready for a move to a top league in a year or two time, but particularly lacks end product at the moment.
Written by AVB's mate, so worth taking on board.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Tottenham are ready to approach Everton over a summer deal for contract rebel Leon Osman.
The 31-year-old, who has two years left on his current contract, has broken off talks with the Toffees over an extension and Spurs are reportedly ready to pounce.
Andre Villas-Boas is known to be desperate to add a controlling central midfielder to his squad at the end of the season, having missed out on Joao Moutinho, and Osman is a top priority.
He has a proven record for Everton in the Premier League, with his performances helping him scoop two England caps in recent months, but it is thought he is ready for a change of scenery.
Osman has been offered fresh terms and a one-year extension to replace his current deal at Goodison Park, but with doubts over David Moyes’ future and time running out to play in the Champions League, he is looking at a move away.
Spurs are thought to be willing to hand in a £6million offer at the end of the season, while they could also throw fringe players into a deal as part of a clear-out if the club reach the Champions League.
Heurelho Gomes, Danny Rose, David Bentley, Iago Falque and Andros Townsend will all be told to find new clubs, while Emmanuel Adebayor may be shipped out to make room for a new striker.
The 31-year-old, who has two years left on his current contract, has broken off talks with the Toffees over an extension and Spurs are reportedly ready to pounce.
Andre Villas-Boas is known to be desperate to add a controlling central midfielder to his squad at the end of the season, having missed out on Joao Moutinho, and Osman is a top priority.
He has a proven record for Everton in the Premier League, with his performances helping him scoop two England caps in recent months, but it is thought he is ready for a change of scenery.
Osman has been offered fresh terms and a one-year extension to replace his current deal at Goodison Park, but with doubts over David Moyes’ future and time running out to play in the Champions League, he is looking at a move away.
Spurs are thought to be willing to hand in a £6million offer at the end of the season, while they could also throw fringe players into a deal as part of a clear-out if the club reach the Champions League.
Heurelho Gomes, Danny Rose, David Bentley, Iago Falque and Andros Townsend will all be told to find new clubs, while Emmanuel Adebayor may be shipped out to make room for a new striker.
WestBerkshire
Noé Pamarot
Rose and Townsend told to find new clubs? Hmmmmm
braineclipse
Willie Hall
About the Castles article: He generally writes well and people keep saying that he's well connected with the club. I don't understand why Villa would have offered us Benteke, more likely that it would have been an agent working for him that contacted us if anything at all.
Not shocked that we're scouting a bunch of players.
The article Mumorn posted: Seems like it was all just invented by some journo.
Not shocked that we're scouting a bunch of players.
The article Mumorn posted: Seems like it was all just invented by some journo.