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Thomas Frank - Head Coach

Talking of aggression and duels.
I just watched Cheatski absolutely destroy Barca.
Yamal hardly got into the game because Cheatski were just flying around making challenges, bullying Barca into the advertising boards, sprinting and sprinting and playing very smart, with risk, willing to poke a ball through with 3 or 4 bursting forwards, annoyingly well drilled.

Remember that the Cheatski fans wanted Maresca sacked a few months ago, because he didn't have a clue and was super boring.
 
Bullet said:
Talking of aggression and duels.
I just watched Cheatski absolutely destroy Barca.
Yamal hardly got into the game because Cheatski were just flying around making challenges, bullying Barca into the advertising boards, sprinting and sprinting and playing very smart, with risk, willing to poke a ball through with 3 or 4 bursting forwards, annoyingly well drilled.

Remember that the Cheatski fans wanted Maresca sacked a few months ago, because he didn't have a clue and was super boring.
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They press though
It’s organised and focussed
There is a video of us at the weekend and Richy tries to press and signals for other to join him…. Bentacur does come from deep and that leaves a massive hole for the spare CB to drop into… but nah. They didn’t move
That is the work that has to be done because at times under Ange we’ were a pressing beast… too much of course.
 
"First season under Pochettino, Spurs were 10th after 15 games. After 12 games, they were on 17 points, had scored 16 and conceded 17. Under Frank, Spurs are on 18 points, scored 20 and conceded 14. Sometimes, things take time but Frank will come good, as did Poch."
 
NaijaSpurs said:
"First season under Pochettino, Spurs were 10th after 15 games. After 12 games, they were on 17 points, had scored 16 and conceded 17. Under Frank, Spurs are on 18 points, scored 20 and conceded 14. Sometimes, things take time but Frank will come good, as did Poch."
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Possibly
I mean anges first 10 games and more points than both and that doesn’t mean anything
 
harr1984 said:
The same people criticising Ange and telling us it wasn't the players are now saying after we have improv d the squad with Kudus, Simons and Muani that what we are seeing is to be expected it's simply hypocritical.
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I think this is slightly unfair. We would have an improved squad on last year if we had those 3 players plus Solanke, Madders and Kulu. Otherwise it's just 3 new players chucked in at the deep end, 2 of whom have no experience of the PL.
 
NaijaSpurs said:
"First season under Pochettino, Spurs were 10th after 15 games. After 12 games, they were on 17 points, had scored 16 and conceded 17. Under Frank, Spurs are on 18 points, scored 20 and conceded 14. Sometimes, things take time but Frank will come good, as did Poch."
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I think the difference was I could see us gradually playing better as more games were played.not immediately, but it was there. The bigger difference is Franks squad is way stronger than what Poch inherited (remember,the stars were not stars yet)
 
parj said:
I think the difference was I could see us gradually playing better as more games were played.not immediately, but it was there. The bigger difference is Franks squad is way stronger than what Poch inherited (remember,the stars were not stars yet)
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no way

yeah Kane and Dier hadn't completely broken out yet, but Lloris, Rose and Walker were already established, not to mention we had Lamela and Demebele in MF, and Adebayor, who had been our top scorer in the previous season
 
Baleforce said:
no way

yeah Kane and Dier hadn't completely broken out yet, but Lloris, Rose and Walker were already established, not to mention we had Lamela and Demebele in MF, and Adebayor, who had been our top scorer in the previous season
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When Poch arrived Dembele and Lamela were not successful signings. Remember, out of the Bale money, only one player was considered a real success - Eriksen. Adebayor was Adebayor - only worked until deal made permanent.

Frank has had more established players including Richy already scoring more goals for Frank than Adebayor did for Poch.

We all have our own opinions for who started with a better squad, but for the players who they were even the managers started, for me Frank has the better team.
 
parj said:
When Poch arrived Dembele and Lamela were not successful signings. Remember, out of the Bale money, only one player was considered a real success - Eriksen. Adebayor was Adebayor - only worked until deal made permanent.

Frank has had more established players including Richy already scoring more goals for Frank than Adebayor did for Poch.

We all have our own opinions for who started with a better squad, but for the players who they were even the managers started, for me Frank has the better team.
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Fair enough, I massively disagree.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Just read his pre match comments transcript. It definitely was telling that his diagnosis was about the duels.

I really like his transparency. I really like that he has a clear idea of what he wants. But this, combined with the pass maps, his selections, the general game management…this is what he wants. The idea isn’t going to change, but hopefully the execution of it will. I hope that the players are bought in.
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Exactly.
 
Robspur12 said:
I think this is slightly unfair. We would have an improved squad on last year if we had those 3 players plus Solanke, Madders and Kulu. Otherwise it's just 3 new players chucked in at the deep end, 2 of whom have no experience of the PL.
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We had Kulu, Maddison, Solanke plus a shed load of otbers out at points last season - at any point in time we are going to have 'when player x,y and z returns' conversations. The point is having added Muani,Palinha, Simons and Kudus the squad is not in a worse position than last season when apparently it wasn't the squad that was the issue,,,,
 
Robspur12 said:
I think this is slightly unfair. We would have an improved squad on last year if we had those 3 players plus Solanke, Madders and Kulu. Otherwise it's just 3 new players chucked in at the deep end, 2 of whom have no experience of the PL.
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We have an improved squad compared to last season. Made this point before, but even more so compared to the start of last season.

We do have injuries for sure and for sure that's impacting us. Then again, injuries were a huge factor last season.

I'm not saying Frank shouldn't get time. But he needs to show improvements. This has been true all season and although there have been some positive signs overall I'm not seeing much from the start of the season until now.

Frank clearly prioritised defensive solidity and set pieces over just about everything else since he came in the door. Leaving us at times looking rather clueless on the ball. For sure we have weaknesses in the squad, for sure we have injury issues. But what we've seen in possession so far this season is also a result of Frank's priorities.

He's stated repeatedly that he wants to play with risk, that he also wants to play good attacking football. That needs to be shown on the pitch and not just in words sooner or later.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Just read his pre match comments transcript. It definitely was telling that his diagnosis was about the duels.

I really like his transparency. I really like that he has a clear idea of what he wants. But this, combined with the pass maps, his selections, the general game management…this is what he wants. The idea isn’t going to change, but hopefully the execution of it will. I hope that the players are bought in.
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I'm noticing myself becoming increasingly critical of Frank so probably some reasons to take my opinion with an even greater pinch of salt than usual.

I'm struggling to see transparency. Or if this is transparency on his part I'm struggling with his diagnosis of some of our problems.
 
parj said:
I think the difference was I could see us gradually playing better as more games were played.not immediately, but it was there. The bigger difference is Franks squad is way stronger than what Poch inherited (remember,the stars were not stars yet)
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Is it really? This isn't a strong squad and whilst Poch's inherited team weren't world beaters they did finish 6th the previous even with a managerial change and even then having the inept caretaker take over.

I think you're romanticizing the quality of the current squad, because I don't see the difference you are. I'd argue that one was actually better if I'm honest or at least it was better balanced.
 
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