The Overlap - some interesting comments from Ange

[Bishop]

Why would there have been less injuries? Despite a less rigorous style of play this season we have continued to pick them up at an alarming rate - chuck in the additional sprints his style demanded and I'd expect we'd be at the same level.

The thought of navigating 2 games a week from the outset without the benefit of being able to fully rotate during the group stages of Europe gives me a cold sweat - we'd have been cooked by Christmas

We would have fewer injuries because @SissokoWasGood (BoL) simply believes we would even despite a good portion of the starting 11 already being long term injured going into this season. There's no reasoning behind it, just belief.

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

Why would there have been less injuries? Despite a less rigorous style of play this season we have continued to pick them up at an alarming rate - chuck in the additional sprints his style demanded and I'd expect we'd be at the same level.

The thought of navigating 2 games a week from the outset without the benefit of being able to fully rotate during the group stages of Europe gives me a cold sweat - we'd have been cooked by Christmas

I don’t know for sure. But I think there’s a fair argument that given we have played a less intense style this season and still gotten crazy injuries, maybe it wasn’t all Ange to begin with? Or that maybe part of the issue is in radially shifting from one coaching style and playing system to another, so the players bodies have to get used to something completely different again?

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

We would have fewer injuries because @SissokoWasGood (BoL) simply believes we would even despite a good portion of the starting 11 already being long term injured going into this season. There's no reasoning behind it, just belief.

Ignoring the ideas of radically changing the playing system and giving the players bodies something new to get used to again, my belief is also based on the law of averages and probability that we simply couldn’t suffer as bad an injury crisis like that again.

Still not following why my assertion is ‘belief’ and your certainty in the other direction is not belief by the way.

 

[Bishop]

Ignoring the ideas of radically changing the playing system and giving the players bodies something new to get used to again, my belief is also based on the law of averages and probability that we simply couldn’t suffer as bad an injury crisis like that again.

Still not following why my assertion is ‘belief’ and your certainty in the other direction is not belief by the way.

I haven't said it's certainty at all, but I'm following the fairly clear trend. Lots of injuries in his 1st and 2nd seasons. You say law of average but factually you can see that yes we did actually suffer umpteen injuries once again this season. There nothing to suggest the injuries we've had this season wouldn't have happened if Ange were still the manager.

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

I haven't said it's certainty at all, but I'm following the fairly clear trend. Lots of injuries in his 1st and 2nd seasons. You say law of average but factually you can see that yes we did actually suffer umpteen injuries once again this season. There nothing to suggest the injuries we've had this season wouldn't have happened if Ange were still the manager.

Other than the players being used to the methods and being more resilient to them as a result, right? Are you saying there is absolutely zero possibility of that being the case?

 

[Bishop]

Other than the players being used to the methods and being more resilient to them as a result, right? Are you saying there is absolutely zero possibility of that being the case?

Unless you believe that there is something specific about Ange or Frank's systems that caused the injuries then no I don't think that's the case.

What I don't understand is considering we suffered said injuries in the first year and again in the 2nd year and even with a different coach who played a different and less inense system we still suffered the injuries you think with Ange this time we suddenly wouldn't?

Im not trying to be rude but what are you basing thing on other than sheer hope? My belief is whomever the coach is next season if we go into the season largely with this set of players we will once suffer from loads of injuries.

 

[NoLimits01]

No, not every situation is exactly the same. It’s quite incredible people can’t see that and constantly make these ridiculous comparisons.

Trophy or no trophy, posting a photo of the man in the raincoat is sailing perilously close to the wind.

You have to be able to spot a joke, people take this thread way too personally