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So, who's going to sing the "Y" word on Sunday?

Ch Supt Mick Johnson, the match commander on Sunday, said: "This topic has been debated at length but our position is clear, racism and offensive language have no place in football or indeed in society.
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It's like the beginning of some dystopian story.
 
The law is very clear that it's not offensive unless there is intent.

Both The Met and the Prime Minster have explicitly confirmed this.

I'm sick of this white Christian anti-semitism with punctuation persecution. We killed Jesus - it was 2000 years ago - get over it.
 
Perhaps the police won't prosecute if those chanting "Yid Army" can prove that they're Jewish?

If so, expect plenty of charges for indecent exposure to ensue.
 
THFC6061 said:
Perhaps the police won't prosecute if those chanting "Yid Army" can prove that they're Jewish?

If so, expect plenty of charges for indecent exposure to ensue.
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Offer a backstreet circumcision service on the turnstyles. Get the club to bulk order 100 cigar cutters...
 
Briddo1882 said:
Political correctness gone mad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24388471

They talk about using offensive language is an arrestable offence. So when Rooney runs up to the ref and calls him an "f-ing c", are the Police going to run onto the pitch an arrest him. If not, why not?:-k
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Sounds fine to me. I don't quite understand how it can be offensive language if you are referring to yourself and those around you who want to be known as it.


Would never hold up in court.
 
Anyone else bored with this yet?

Its an example of how the media create something out of nothing to sell newspapers/ page hits, and as the 'story' grows, gives them more to write about. A self perpetuating industry. Hopefully the media will get bored of it too.

For Spurs fans it can only enhance the us against them. All publicity is effective and the term is now more known than ever! If its offensive, do 'they' the people writing stories really care? Its just sensationalism. I can't see how a (shorted) term used for a language is offensive. Never has an acronyms been more apt: WALOB.
 
If anything this will serve to make the home fans even closer and louder on sunday

Im expecting an amazing atmosphere
 
Who's going to sing Yid Army? Probably these guys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gold_(businessman)
Gold was raised in abject poverty in the slums of East London and for some time lived at 442 Green Street near to West Ham's Boleyn Ground. His father, Godfrey,[2] was an East End criminal, known locally as 'Goldy', who spent time in prison during Gold's early years.[3] David Gold is ethnically half Jewish from his father's side

Gold owns Gold Group International (GGI), the parent company of the retailer Ann Summers and lingerie chain Knickerbox. GGI was jointly owned by Gold and his brother Ralph, until he bought out Ralph's share in 2008.[7]
He co-owned (with brother Ralph) adult magazine company Gold Star Publications (GSP), including printing and distribution businesses, and a stable of titles including Russler and Raider. He and his brother sold their interests in November 2006


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Sullivan_(publisher)

A millionaire by 25, with his partner, David Gold, Sullivan moved into the adult entertainment industry; his business empire encompassing sex shops, adult magazines and several low-budget blue movies.[6]
By the mid-1970s, Sullivan was in control of half of the adult magazine market, including major titles such as Playbirds and Whitehouse.[16] In the late 70s eight of his films were showing consecutively in the West End. Sullivan commanded 50% of the entire men’s magazine market, 80% of the adult mail order market and ran 150 shops.
In the late 1970s he produced several low-budget British sex movies including Come Play with Me (1977) (directed by Harrison Marks).
This was followed by The Playbirds (1978), Confessions from the David Galaxy Affair (1979) and Queen of the Blues (1979), all starring his then-girlfriend Mary Millington. After Millington's suicide in August 1979 he continued with Mary Millington's True Blue Confessions (1980) and Emmanuelle in Soho (1981).
In 1982 Sullivan was convicted of living off immoral earnings and after a successful appeal was released after serving 71 days in prison.[17] Sullivan explained that he did not feel embarrassed about the initial source of his early fortunes. "I've made a lot of people happy,” he said. “If I was an arms manufacturer or a cigarette manufacturer, and my products killed millions of my clients, I'd have a bit of doubt about the whole thing. I was a freedom fighter. I believe in the right of adults to make their own decisions."
Although Sullivan is continuing to develop his business interests elsewhere he still owns a chain of 100 Private Shops, with many staffed by the same workers who helped launch them.[citation needed]
 
THST has noted, with great sadness, the statement issued by the Metropolitan Police over the last 24 hours in relation to the new interpretation being applied to Section 5 of the 1986 Public Order Act, classifying the word ‘Yid’ as either ‘insulting’ or ‘racist’.
For years, Board Members of THST have stood with our fans, home and away, as one. And that’s something we’ll continue to do, as we cannot stand idly by while our loyal supporters are unfairly targeted.
It is THST’s sincere belief that no Spurs fan uses the term ‘Yid’ in an offensive or insulting way yet, sadly, the distinction between the use of the term as a badge of honour and a call to arms by Tottenham Hotspur supporters and the anti-Semitic abuse levelled at our fans by supporters of opposing teams appears to have been dismissed by both the FA and the Metropolitan Police.
THST believes there is no place for racism at White Hart Lane or, indeed, within football in general, but to label the songs our fans have been singing and the chants our fans have been chanting for decades as ‘racist’ overnight, with no legal precedent, is incomprehensible to us.
Since our last statement of 11[SUP]th[/SUP] September 2013, we have not waited, complacently, for this issue to disappear. We have sought the opinion of legal counsel and, subsequently, understand the position now adopted by the Metropolitan Police could be in breach of Human Rights and/or freedom of expression. Certainly, those actively campaigning to repeal Section 5 subscribe to that view.
THST has a responsibility not to willfully encourage any Spurs fan to continue chanting and singing the word ‘Yid’ this weekend with no regard for the consequences.
First, the Police will not only be monitoring West Ham fans for any racist/ anti-Semitic abuse during the match. The Met have made it clear they also consider the term ‘Yid’ to be racist and offensive, so Spurs fans singing or chanting ‘Yid Army’, or ‘Yids’ will fall into this category.
The fact that thousands of Spurs fans will, probably, be chanting or singing ‘Yid/ Yiddo’ does not mean an individual fan will be protected. As was witnessed at the Chelsea match, any one fan can be singled out and issued with a warning: it doesn’t have to be an entire block.
THST understands that the Police will initially approach a fan seen to be using the word ‘Yid’ and ask them to refrain from using the term. If they persist, a warning will be issued. If use of the word continues, an ejection or arrest may follow.
THST urges all supporters to be aware of the Police stance on this subject and to make their decision as to whether or not to use the term on Sunday equipped with all the information available.
THST also asks that all fans attending the West Ham United match on Sunday note the number of our recommended solicitor should they encounter any problems:
Bailey Nicholson Grayson - T: 07818 575 793 (24 hour line)
We strongly advise fans not to accept a caution and not to accept a duty solicitor. Ask for Bailey Nicholson Grayson and wait for one of their team to arrive.
THST will also be in attendance at the game on Sunday and will offer help to any fan needing assistance.
The Trust Board cares passionately about our Club and our fans and will work tirelessly towards gaining a conclusion on this matter, either way. We will not abandon our fan base in its’ greatest hour of need and, once again, we ask you all to work with us towards a positive outcome.
 
Superhudd said:
THST has noted, with great sadness, the statement issued by the Metropolitan Police over the last 24 hours in relation to the new interpretation being applied to Section 5 of the 1986 Public Order Act, classifying the word ‘Yid’ as either ‘insulting’ or ‘racist’.
For years, Board Members of THST have stood with our fans, home and away, as one. And that’s something we’ll continue to do, as we cannot stand idly by while our loyal supporters are unfairly targeted.
It is THST’s sincere belief that no Spurs fan uses the term ‘Yid’ in an offensive or insulting way yet, sadly, the distinction between the use of the term as a badge of honour and a call to arms by Tottenham Hotspur supporters and the anti-Semitic abuse levelled at our fans by supporters of opposing teams appears to have been dismissed by both the FA and the Metropolitan Police.
THST believes there is no place for racism at White Hart Lane or, indeed, within football in general, but to label the songs our fans have been singing and the chants our fans have been chanting for decades as ‘racist’ overnight, with no legal precedent, is incomprehensible to us.
Since our last statement of 11[SUP]th[/SUP] September 2013, we have not waited, complacently, for this issue to disappear. We have sought the opinion of legal counsel and, subsequently, understand the position now adopted by the Metropolitan Police could be in breach of Human Rights and/or freedom of expression. Certainly, those actively campaigning to repeal Section 5 subscribe to that view.
THST has a responsibility not to willfully encourage any Spurs fan to continue chanting and singing the word ‘Yid’ this weekend with no regard for the consequences.
First, the Police will not only be monitoring West Ham fans for any racist/ anti-Semitic abuse during the match. The Met have made it clear they also consider the term ‘Yid’ to be racist and offensive, so Spurs fans singing or chanting ‘Yid Army’, or ‘Yids’ will fall into this category.
The fact that thousands of Spurs fans will, probably, be chanting or singing ‘Yid/ Yiddo’ does not mean an individual fan will be protected. As was witnessed at the Chelsea match, any one fan can be singled out and issued with a warning: it doesn’t have to be an entire block.
THST understands that the Police will initially approach a fan seen to be using the word ‘Yid’ and ask them to refrain from using the term. If they persist, a warning will be issued. If use of the word continues, an ejection or arrest may follow.
THST urges all supporters to be aware of the Police stance on this subject and to make their decision as to whether or not to use the term on Sunday equipped with all the information available.
THST also asks that all fans attending the West Ham United match on Sunday note the number of our recommended solicitor should they encounter any problems:
Bailey Nicholson Grayson - T: 07818 575 793 (24 hour line)
We strongly advise fans not to accept a caution and not to accept a duty solicitor. Ask for Bailey Nicholson Grayson and wait for one of their team to arrive.
THST will also be in attendance at the game on Sunday and will offer help to any fan needing assistance.
The Trust Board cares passionately about our Club and our fans and will work tirelessly towards gaining a conclusion on this matter, either way. We will not abandon our fan base in its’ greatest hour of need and, once again, we ask you all to work with us towards a positive outcome.
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Is it me or is that just one big advert for a law firm?
 
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