Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
You would need to corroborate that with their league position at that point in time too though to give it context
It could easily be that in these times the team was top too... Not 4th
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Serious relegation fears
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You would need to corroborate that with their league position at that point in time too though to give it context
It could easily be that in these times the team was top too... Not 4th
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
Kane is important, but he's no Suarez. Yet. I don't think he alone can drag us to the title, much as I would love it to be so.
7percent
Pascal Chimbonda
I did not mean to suggest Kane is as good as Suarez, just the consistency of a having a regular strike bodes well. If Kane wants to score 30+ goals this season then I won't complain though
SteveAWOL
Colin Calderwood
Indeed... The only 2 sides with the best GD after week 19 who weren't also top of the league at that point were Emirates Marketing Project (who trailed Liverpool by just 1pt in) 2013 and Chelsea ( who also trailed Liverpool by just 1pt) in 2008.
2015: Spurs +18 35pts fourth / ???
2014: Chelsea +27 46pts first / +41 87pts champs
2013: Emirates Marketing Project +33 41pts second / +65 86pts champs
2012: ManU +20 46pts first / +43 89pts champs
2011: Emirates Marketing Project +37 45pts first / +64 89pts champs
2010: ManU +23 41pts first / +41 80pts champs
2009: Chelsea +28 42pts first / +71 86pts champs
2008: Chelsea +31 41pts second / +44 83pts third
2007: ManU +27 45pts first / +58 87pts champs
2006: ManU +31 47pts first / +56 89pts champs
2005: Chelsea +32 52pts first / +50 91pts champs
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Robbo
Les Ferdinand
Cheers. I'll inform the Internet dude about this.
I'm noting though that the best goal difference this year is considerably lower than most other seasons. Probably says something about how open the PL race is this season.
SteveAWOL
Colin Calderwood
Yup. That and the fact that the top team (top 2 in many cases) had picked up at least 41 points by the halfway stage in each of the past 10 years.
In Redknapp' final season we had picked up 42pts by week 19 (+16GD) which would be enough to put us 3pts clear at the top this year but was only enough for 3rd place behind the Mancs; who'd both already got 45 points during Fergie' final campaign.
Back in 2009/10 we also had a GD of +18 (34 points) by the halfway stage but that was only enough for 5th spot, 1pt behind Aston Villa!
In Jol' first full season (Lasagne-gate) we were also in 4th spot at the halfway stage, on 34pts with a GD of +9.
During AVB' record-points-haul we had 33pts with a goal difference of +9 to sit 4th at the halfway stage.
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Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Interesting listening to Jonathan Wilson on our title chances on the Second Captains podcast ( 38 minutes 13 seconds in)
"If you were a Tottenham Hotspur fan would you be thinking about the league title at this stage after three wins on the bounce?"
Jonathan Wilson - "Yeah I'd certainly be thinking... Well I'd be thinking two things. One, I'd be thinking this is probably the best chance we are gonna get in a decade. And this is a really odd season in terms of all the big teams not playing well. And therefore if you are a Tottenham, or an Everton, or a Liverpool, or an Arsenal even, that this is your chance. Its not gonna be this easy ever again. So you've got to make the most of it. I think as a Tottenham fan I'd be slightly frustrated that they're not already doing better. They're drawn what 8 games this season. My guess would be of those 8 games they've been the better side in the three quarters of them. So of those 6 games, say they got a winner in 3 of them, as they did against Watford, thats another 6 points and suddenly they are at the top. And maybe that over-reliance on Harry Kane for goals will in the end cost them. That opening period of the season when Kane wasn't scoring, they could have nicked a couple of more results. And things like the home game against Liverpool, the second half then they really should have got something out of that game and didn't. I think they occasionally let in sloppy equalisers. So yeah I would be thinking of a title but I'd also be thinking that they've slightly missed their chance. They could be in a better position than they are."
"If you were a Tottenham Hotspur fan would you be thinking about the league title at this stage after three wins on the bounce?"
Jonathan Wilson - "Yeah I'd certainly be thinking... Well I'd be thinking two things. One, I'd be thinking this is probably the best chance we are gonna get in a decade. And this is a really odd season in terms of all the big teams not playing well. And therefore if you are a Tottenham, or an Everton, or a Liverpool, or an Arsenal even, that this is your chance. Its not gonna be this easy ever again. So you've got to make the most of it. I think as a Tottenham fan I'd be slightly frustrated that they're not already doing better. They're drawn what 8 games this season. My guess would be of those 8 games they've been the better side in the three quarters of them. So of those 6 games, say they got a winner in 3 of them, as they did against Watford, thats another 6 points and suddenly they are at the top. And maybe that over-reliance on Harry Kane for goals will in the end cost them. That opening period of the season when Kane wasn't scoring, they could have nicked a couple of more results. And things like the home game against Liverpool, the second half then they really should have got something out of that game and didn't. I think they occasionally let in sloppy equalisers. So yeah I would be thinking of a title but I'd also be thinking that they've slightly missed their chance. They could be in a better position than they are."
Eriktheviking
Goran Bunjevcevic
In addition to the above I also think that we could fudge it all up and finish 5th; typical Spurs. Tottenham always have this way off letting you down and I refuse to believe we will even finish top 4 until we finish there.
NaijaSpurs
Rafael Van Der Vaart
The battle ahead:
Home games: Leicester City, Sunderland, Watford, Swansea, Arsenal, Bournemouth, Manchester United, West Brom, Southampton
Away games: Everton, Crystal Palace, Norwich, Emirates Marketing Project, West Ham, Aston Villa, Liverpool, Stoke, Chelsea, Saudi Sportswashing Machine
Home games: Leicester City, Sunderland, Watford, Swansea, Arsenal, Bournemouth, Manchester United, West Brom, Southampton
Away games: Everton, Crystal Palace, Norwich, Emirates Marketing Project, West Ham, Aston Villa, Liverpool, Stoke, Chelsea, Saudi Sportswashing Machine
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Some tough away games, but should be able to pick up a few good points at home.
Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
We look good away from home and it suits us to play away
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
This is not a typical Spurs team though, is it? The past is the past and no predictor of the future, unless everything has remained the same and in this case it's been a 180 degree turnaround. So I don't get the "this is typical Spurs" comment.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
I think trying to predict ahead is as crazy as trying to call the lottery numbers for tonight. Yes, we can have a guess, but it's just that, a guess.
At the start of the season, would anyone really have predicted that we would have only lost twice, have a goal difference as good as our's, and a defence as resolute as ours appears to be? No? Thought not.
Fun as it is, I'm just going to enjoy each game that comes, recognise the challenge involved and hope that the team will have enough to collect the three points. From the strength of performances shown so far, of course we ha e a good chance for top 4, but I'm going to try not to look ahead & predict too much, for the reasons outlined above. It's a fun season though, isn't it?!
At the start of the season, would anyone really have predicted that we would have only lost twice, have a goal difference as good as our's, and a defence as resolute as ours appears to be? No? Thought not.
Fun as it is, I'm just going to enjoy each game that comes, recognise the challenge involved and hope that the team will have enough to collect the three points. From the strength of performances shown so far, of course we ha e a good chance for top 4, but I'm going to try not to look ahead & predict too much, for the reasons outlined above. It's a fun season though, isn't it?!
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
I think trying to predict ahead is as crazy as trying to call the lottery numbers for tonight. Yes, we can have a guess, but it's just that, a guess.
At the start of the season, would anyone really have predicted that we would have only lost twice, have a goal difference as good as our's, and a defence as resolute as ours appears to be? No? Thought not.
Fun as it is, I'm just going to enjoy each game that comes, recognise the challenge involved and hope that the team will have enough to collect the three points. From the strength of performances shown so far, of course we ha e a good chance for top 4, but I'm going to try not to look ahead & predict too much, for the reasons outlined above. It's a fun season though, isn't it?!
It's f-ing brilliant.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
You are right. It's not typical Spurs at all which is throwing everyone's equilibrium off. I guess Erik is just expecting it to all go tits up at any moment. It is a sentiment I can understand based on my entire Spurs supporting life
but just once I'd like us to buck the trend (well more than once but I'd take once as a start).
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Bedfordspurs
Arthur Rowe
You are right. It's not typical Spurs at all which is throwing everyone's equilibrium off. I guess Erik is just expecting it to all go tits up at any moment. It is a sentiment I can understand based on my entire Spurs support life
I think traditionally we do muck it up as we rely historically on individual brilliance rather than team work and systems. Arse and city are both guilty on over reliance creatively from Ozil and Silva for example (and obviously Kompany too in city's case). Despite the clamour to say we rely on Kane for goals we have Toby and Dier and Dembele and Eriksen and others on 2 or 3. Son and Alli on 4 and Lamella on 8. We're sharing the burden when need be now an their all contributing with assists. We have Mason and Cahdli hardly getting a sniff and they both can contribute assists and goals
They key though is the team work and team ethics and that's why im confident new wont crumble. Will it be enough to win the league... Depends on others IMO. But im confident of top 4
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
I think we're already bucking it.You are right. It's not typical Spurs at all which is throwing everyone's equilibrium off. I guess Erik is just expecting it to all go tits up at any moment. It is a sentiment I can understand based on my entire Spurs supporting life
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
I'd say there's lot more bucking to do before this season is outI think we're already bucking it.
I'd like to buck Everton up this weekend to start with.
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
In the last 12 years, teams needed 85-90 points to become league champions. Only exception was in 2010, when ManU only had 80 points to become champions. It might be the case again this season. With all the big teams inconsistent and Leicester lacking the experience, I think 80-85 points might be enough to become champions this season. So, we need to win 17 of our remaining 19 matches to have any chance of winning the league title. It might be even less if all our rivals lose many unexpected points along the way.