• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

Ross Barkley

Raziel said:
Actually doubt that .. Barkley will fail miserably at anything other than collecting a paycheck at Chelsea, while he has talent, he obviously needs the right coach/environment and opportunities to step up, not something any of the top 6 clubs provide other than Spurs.

If he takes that Chelsea paycheck, he'll be on loan in a season and probably playing for a bottom level PL team in two years. No guarantees he would work at Spurs, but damn close to a guarantee he will be nothing but filler at Chelsea and another wasted talent killed by too munch money for sitting on a bench.
Click to expand...

I meant 'time will tell' whether he's a good signing for Spurs at £25m. Agree that anyone moving to cheatski is taking a risk unless they're a big established name already, rather than someone who needs any development.

Good chance that he'll be playing for a top 6 team by staying at Everton, given whats happening at Arse!!
 
Gazza Dazzla said:
Well I certainly hope you're right, I'd be delighted, but I mentioned in the Barkley thread the other week, Dembele is excellent at a lot of things that Barkley simply hasn't shown any level of competence at at all so far. Like tackling, positioning, interceptions, blocking, tracking back and just general work rate.

Don't get me wrong, I think Barkley has talent and I'd like us to sign him for the right deal, but he's shown nothing to me to suggest he can play that CM position. I'd prefer to develop/groom Onomah as the Dembele successor to be honest.
Click to expand...
This is pretty close to the way I see it. Barkley is pretty weak defensively IMO and if we get him he will likely be deployed further up the field. Maybe if we are chasing the game he might drop deeper like Eriksen sometimes does but I don't see him replacing Dembele.
 
AdamB said:
I meant 'time will tell' whether he's a good signing for Spurs at £25m. Agree that anyone moving to cheatski is taking a risk unless they're a big established name already, rather than someone who needs any development.

Good chance that he'll be playing for a top 6 team by staying at Everton, given whats happening at Arse!!
Click to expand...
I think even if the Barkley transfer to us happens and it doesn't really work out, at 25mil we will likely get our money back or maybe even make a profit knowing Levy. It's not that risky a transfer IMO with plenty of upside if he can become more consistent.

Did I read he wants to come to Spurs? I do hope Barkley is smart enough to realise that a move to Chelsea will only boost his bank balance and not much else.
 
Last edited:
Rorschach said:
I think even if the Barkley transfer happens but doesn't really work out here, at 25mil we will likely get our money back or maybe even make a profit knowing Levy.

Did I read he wants to come to Spurs? I do hope Barkley is smart enough to realise that a move to Chelsea will only boost his bank balance and not much else.
Click to expand...

On the first, I agree and its why I think its a low risk deal. If he doesnt indeed turn into a Dembele-like player, then he's a £50m player. If not we could flog him to stoke or someome similar for more or less the same price

I've also seen various stories about him wanting to come to Spurs because he wants to work with Poch. Not sure I've seen any direct quotes though
 
Rorschach said:
This is pretty close to the way I see it. Barkley is pretty weak defensively IMO and if we get him he will likely be deployed further up the field. Maybe if we are chasing the game he might drop deeper like Eriksen sometimes does but I don't see him replacing Dembele.
Click to expand...

Barkley's much more like Huddlestone than Dembele (although Hudd was better defensively than Barkley is). He's an attacking player who just happens to be big.
 
Gazza Dazzla said:
Well I certainly hope you're right, I'd be delighted, but I mentioned in the Barkley thread the other week, Dembele is excellent at a lot of things that Barkley simply hasn't shown any level of competence at at all so far. Like tackling, positioning, interceptions, blocking, tracking back and just general work rate.

Don't get me wrong, I think Barkley has talent and I'd like us to sign him for the right deal, but he's shown nothing to me to suggest he can play that CM position. I'd prefer to develop/groom Onomah as the Dembele successor to be honest.
Click to expand...

His work rate is absolutely fine, and has been shown statistically a number of times in that very thread.

As to the rest its subjective for the most part. Just because you didnt notice it did it never happen? If you were playing in a Martinez set up how good would anyones positioning be?

I think most of those weaknesses you point to - potentially valid, potentially unfair - are what Pochettino specialises in training into players.

Either way, its an argument of opinions and only time will tell!

I understand people being sceptical. Im certainly not convinced he will be a nailed on success, I just think there is potentially a player in there that could really work for us.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Barkley's much more like Huddlestone than Dembele (although Hudd was better defensively than Barkley is). He's an attacking player who just happens to be big.
Click to expand...
I think he'll play second fiddle to Eriksen in that playmaker role and although you don't like him too much he does have his moments. Maybe not enough of them to be considered a starting certainty but Poch will fix that with the judicious use of nipple electrodes.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Mane was never an option in his Liverpool salary
Click to expand...

It was partly a flippant response to GB's comparing potentially missing out on Barkley to the situation where we didnt sign Berahino but ended up with Son. I'm sure there's other situations where we've missed out on someone who's ultimatley been successful elsewhere, and ended up with someone who has failed - this was the first one which I could think of quickly. If we miss out on £25m Barkley, I'm not convinced that we'll be able to get better for the same money
 
AdamB said:
It was partly a flippant response to GB's comparing potentially missing out on Barkley to the situation where we didnt sign Berahino but ended up with Son. I'm sure there's other situations where we've missed out on someone who's ultimatley been successful elsewhere, and ended up with someone who has failed - this was the first one which I could think of quickly. If we miss out on £25m Barkley, I'm not convinced that we'll be able to get better for the same money
Click to expand...

I'm not either

Keita looks like he is off to a tax haven and he is a nutter

Mahrez hasn't really benenlinked with us on any level

And I can't think of anyone else obvious

But for me we have to get someone in on the creative side to add to the squad
 
Rorschach said:
I think he'll play second fiddle to Eriksen in that playmaker role and although you don't like him too much he does have his moments. Maybe not enough of them to be considered a starting certainty but Poch will fix that with the judicious use of nipple electrodes.
Click to expand...

Barkley has a real attitude on the pitch of player who wants the ball... he doesn't go hiding

In a game like Burnley he would have been a great option to bring on and play an attacking role

I never get teams making a defensive sub for an attacker and not expect them opposition to get a momemntum swing
 
Rorschach said:
I think he'll play second fiddle to Eriksen in that playmaker role and although you don't like him too much he does have his moments. Maybe not enough of them to be considered a starting certainty but Poch will fix that with the judicious use of nipple electrodes.
Click to expand...

He's not got the intelligence to be a playmaker. IMO he'd be second fiddle to Alli in the Kane-support role.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I'm not either

Keita looks like he is off to a tax haven and he is a nutter

Mahrez hasn't really benenlinked with us on any level

And I can't think of anyone else obvious

But for me we have to get someone in on the creative side to add to the squad
Click to expand...

I'm fingers crossed for Sancho. I think he'll be this season's Alli
 
Gutter Boy said:
He's not got the intelligence to be a playmaker. IMO he'd be second fiddle to Alli in the Kane-support role.
Click to expand...
I don't buy into that he has no intelligence nonsense. He does have an eye for a pass and plays that role for Everton mostly. He is not as good as Eriksen but then who is. He is not like Alli at all in that he won't run in behind IMO.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back