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Ratings Vs Leeds

Ratings v Leeds

Embarrassment.

Friedel - 6. Could have done better for the 1st goal?

Naughton - 4. Not good enough.
Caulker - 4. Not good enough, should have played Dawson.
Vertonghen - 3. No excuse for laziness.
BAE - 5. Best of the defence, not saying much.

Lennon - 5. Couple of driving runs, no end product.
Parker - 5. Tried hard but not good enough.
Huddlestone - 4. Shocking.
Bale - 6. Couple of nice runs and crosses.

Siggurdsen - 4. Completely anonymous.
Dempsey - 7. Best of the bunch. Good goal and tried hard.

Subs:
Dembele - 4. Offered nothing and lazy pass almost cost us anothe goal.
Obika - 4. Not good enough.
Walker - 6. Offered more going forward than Naughton.
 
Friedel - 6

Naughton - 4.5
Caulker - 4
Vertonghen - 4
Ekotto - 6

lennon - 6
Huddlestone - 5
Parker - 5.5
Bale - 7

Sigurdssson - 5
Dempsey - 6
 
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Friedel 6

Naughton 5
Caulker 5
Vertonghen 4
Ekotto 6.5

Lennon 5
Parker 6
Hudd 4
Bale 6.5

Sig 5
Dempsey 6
 
Friedel - 5

Naughton - 4
Vertonghen - 3
Caulker - 4
Assou-Ekotto - 6

Lennon - 6
Parker - 6
Huddlestone - 5
Bale - 6

Sigurdsson - 4
Dempsey - 5

Subs:
Dembele - 5
Obika - 5
Walker - 6

Dog brick sandwich
 
Friedel - 5 Could have done better for the first goal and upset the entire defence by sitting deep and never coming claiming anything all game

Naughton - 4 the best game Walker ever had by comparison
Caulker - 4 i dont think he has the football brain to be a top defender
Vertonghen - 5 couldnt be arsed (the fa what?)
BAE - 6 decent considering he coming back from injury

Lennon - 6 has good whenever we got the ball to him which wasnt enough
Parker - 4 out of position constantly, no protection to the back 4, at some point over his break we woke up and thought he was frank lampard
Huddlestone - 3 worst player on the pitch
Bale - 7 thought he had a good game but he cant do it all on his own (he tried though)

Siggurdsen - 6 not his day
Dempsey - 7 worked hard, great header, decent link up
 
Friedel 7 - Couldn't do anything about the goals, and kept us in it.
Naughton 4 - Very disappointing at right back
Caulker 3 - Absolutely shockingly poor performance, probably the worst of the season from any Spurs player I've seen so far.
Vertonghen 5 - Doesn't like it against physical opposition much does he?
Ekotto 5 - So pleased to have him back, but he looked so rusty

Lennon 4 - Poor poor performance from Lennon. Hardly got into the game and when he did, run himself into trouble
Parker 6 - Worked hard and looked like the only player who gave a brick. Some very important challenges, but when he gets into that final third his composure turns to crap.
Huddlestone 5 - Looked very rusty and off the pace
Bale 6 - Not his best game but a couple of moments of brilliance, including a great cross. He desperately needs some help on the pitch to lighten the creativity burden
Sigurdsson 4 - You can see why he isn't getting much first team time

Dempsey 6 - Excellent finish and worked hard up top. Lacked quality too often though.

Dembele 5 - Failed to make a positive impact and was very sloppy in possession
Obika 5 - Failed to make the necessary runs to get into the game and sadly looked way out of his depth
Walker 5 - Was hoping that he'd bomb forward and give us what we'd been missing on the right, but sadly looked shaky

AVB 5 - We've been playing so well with two banks of four, and so we switch to a five man midfield and boy did we poor. Then we play Bale and Lennon on the wrong flanks. We looked a bit better when we finally switched to a four man midfield (although we scored when we were still playing a five man midfield) and the team looked better balanced, but we only played it for a few minutes before we changed shape again. Maybe AVB felt that Leeds were comfortable opposition to experiment against, but the result has shown him wrong. However, with the players available to him and the system he started out with there wasn't much he could have done different with the exception of Dembele and Dawson (and Walker maybe for Naughton) for Huddlestone and Caulker respectively. And the team he put out should have been too much for a Championship side, home or away.

Hopefully this will persuade Levy to be a bit less fiscally tight. But judging by the fact we've been here so many times before, I doubt it.
 
Friedel - 6. Some ridiculous criticism coming in for Friedel. Average performance.

Naughton - 4.5. What he did for the first goal was beyond comprehension for me. I haven't seen something that bad in a long time.
Caulker - 4. Very poor today.
Vertonghen - 4. Poor. And worse, lazy. He has a tendancy to sometimes give up when he should be tracking back. It can cost us big time.
Ekotto - 6. Average.

Lennon - 6. Couple of good runs. Otherwise not much to write home about, whether on the right or left
Huddlestone - 5. Poor.
Parker - 5. Little protection to the defence and he and Huddlestone seemed to keep on getting into each other's way. Was bested by Brown.
Bale - 6. Good assist but otherwise not all that impressed today tbh.

Sigurdssson - 4. Completely and utterly anonymous.
Dempsey - 7. Worked hard, good goal.

Appalling performance today, made worse by the fact that there are a lot of starters in that 11. A striker and a midfielder please Levy. And not in the summer.
 
Push and Run said:
Obika 5 - Failed to make the necessary runs to get into the game and sadly looked way out of his depth

AVB 5 - We've been playing so well with two banks of four, and so we switch to a five man midfield and boy did we poor. Then we play Bale and Lennon on the wrong flanks. We looked a bit better when we finally switched to a four man midfield (although we scored when we were still playing a five man midfield) and the team looked better balanced, but we only played it for a few minutes before we changed shape again. Maybe AVB felt that Leeds were comfortable opposition to experiment against, but the result has shown him wrong. However, with the players available to him and the system he started out with there wasn't much he could have done different with the exception of Dembele and Dawson (and Walker maybe for Naughton) for Huddlestone and Caulker respectively. And the team he put out should have been too much for a Championship side, home or away.

Hopefully this will persuade Levy to be a bit less fiscally tight. But judging by the fact we've been here so many times before, I doubt it.
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So you moan that Obika was brick and looked out of his depth and then blame AVB for playing a "5 man midfield" - it wasn't, it was 4411. What did you want him to do? Wave his magic wand and grant us a new striker?
 
Push and Run said:
Friedel 7 - Couldn't do anything about the goals, and kept us in it.
Naughton 4 - Very disappointing at right back
Caulker 3 - Absolutely shockingly poor performance, probably the worst of the season from any Spurs player I've seen so far.
Vertonghen 5 - Doesn't like it against physical opposition much does he?
Ekotto 5 - So pleased to have him back, but he looked so rusty

Lennon 4 - Poor poor performance from Lennon. Hardly got into the game and when he did, run himself into trouble
Parker 6 - Worked hard and looked like the only player who gave a brick. Some very important challenges, but when he gets into that final third his composure turns to crap.
Huddlestone 5 - Looked very rusty and off the pace
Bale 6 - Not his best game but a couple of moments of brilliance, including a great cross. He desperately needs some help on the pitch to lighten the creativity burden
Sigurdsson 4 - You can see why he isn't getting much first team time

Dempsey 6 - Excellent finish and worked hard up top. Lacked quality too often though.

Dembele 5 - Failed to make a positive impact and was very sloppy in possession
Obika 5 - Failed to make the necessary runs to get into the game and sadly looked way out of his depth
Walker 5 - Was hoping that he'd bomb forward and give us what we'd been missing on the right, but sadly looked shaky

AVB 5 - We've been playing so well with two banks of four, and so we switch to a five man midfield and boy did we poor. Then we play Bale and Lennon on the wrong flanks. We looked a bit better when we finally switched to a four man midfield (although we scored when we were still playing a five man midfield) and the team looked better balanced, but we only played it for a few minutes before we changed shape again. Maybe AVB felt that Leeds were comfortable opposition to experiment against, but the result has shown him wrong. However, with the players available to him and the system he started out with there wasn't much he could have done different with the exception of Dembele and Dawson (and Walker maybe for Naughton) for Huddlestone and Caulker respectively. And the team he put out should have been too much for a Championship side, home or away.

Hopefully this will persuade Levy to be a bit less fiscally tight. But judging by the fact we've been here so many times before, I doubt it.
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5 man midfield? What game where you watching?
Siggy was in front of Dempsey most of the time.
There was no difference in formation between defoe and dempsey upfront and dempsey and siggy upfront.
 
Rossi22 said:
So you moan that Obika was brick and looked out of his depth and then blame AVB for playing a "5 man midfield" - it wasn't, it was 4411. What did you want him to do? Wave his magic wand and grant us a new striker?
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Personally I'd have played Obika from the start. It's better to have an average player in there and maintain the shape that all the players know and have been successful in recent weeks. Sigurdsson was in the centre of midfield. It was clearly a 4-5-1 until he came off. He certainly wasn't playing the Sheringham/VDV role.

It's a big lesson learnt for all concerned and I hope it's one we don't repeat. Until we have the right personnel AVB has to be patient and stick with the two banks of four. Had we signed Moutinho it could have all been so different, but even then I am not convinced we have a single striker at the club who is good enough to play the lone forward role consistently. For that formation to truly work we need a Drogba/RvP/Torres (when he was good!) quality player. Not many of them around unfortunately!
 
Modric THFC said:
5 man midfield? What game where you watching?
Siggy was in front of Dempsey most of the time.
There was no difference in formation between defoe and dempsey upfront and dempsey and siggy upfront.
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Siggy didn't play up front, nor did he play in the hole. It wasn't two banks of four. Or if it was meant to be, it certainly didn't end up being it! Especially with our two inverted wingers/inside forwards supporting the lone striker Dempsey up top (a role I have to say he didn't do very well because he kept dropping too deep).
 
Well I don't know which game you were watching because Sigurdsson was playing beyond Dempsey at times but was mostly just behind him. He certainly wasn't playing alongside Huddlestone and Parker :~. Blaming AVB for not starting Jonathan Obika, lol.
 
Rossi22 said:
Well I don't know which game you were watching because Sigurdsson was playing beyond Dempsey at times but was mostly just behind him. He certainly wasn't playing alongside Huddlestone and Parker :~. Blaming AVB for not starting Jonathan Obika, lol.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. But you do realise in a 5 man midfield the three central midfielders don't play in a line? One will play slightly further than the two more central midfielders, e.g. even in a 5-3-2 Poyet would play more advanced to the deeper lying Anderton/Freund but still behind the two forwards.
 
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