Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[monkeybarry]

War crimes are unfortunately pretty inevitable and occur in pretty much every conflict. But then this guy seems to have taken the quotes from the source and added x10. The quotes themselves seem to imply that whether civilians were shot was down to commanders moods but then he takes that and says "its not errant commanders its the state of Israel itself" and i'm sat there and thinking....er....thats not what the source said mate.

Have you got a different video to me?

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Have you got a different video to me?

Couldn't watch the video was just going by the "quotes"

 

[scaramanga]

I don't think theres any reliable figure to differentiate combatants from civilians. Combatants fighting the Israelis are basically civilians that have picked up a gun. Hamas and other Palestinian paramilitaries are not a super organised structure and they dont have an army.

This was the case, even if one were to accept Hamas's patently ridiculous numbers.

 

[LutonSpurs]

How the heck does damaging British jets manage that?

Awareness. It has worked in the past.

 

[LutonSpurs]

This was the case, even if one were to accept Hamas's patently ridiculous numbers.

You could see the testimonies of Dr's from the UK. Or the video footage. Or the pictures of the rubble. Or believe anyone other than the IDF.

 

[scaramanga]

The bias of not being able to see clearly genocidal actions and instead describe such as simply "legitimate military actions".
For example, asking millions of civilians to relocate to specific areas "for their safety" and then hitting those same areas with bombs is clearly wicked and genocidal and NOT simply "legitimate military actions" - unless those "legitimate military actions" include killing as many people who live in Palestinian lands as possible so Israelis can move in and replace them...

I agree with you that Israel won't achieve those aims, in fact i think "Zionism" is dying on its feet. A one-state solution where people of ALL religious persuasions and ethnicities have equal rights is in fact what will likely happen from here imo

Your "genocidal" assertions do your argument no justice and just make you sound ridiculous.

Just think about it for one second. Given all the ability and firepower available to Israel, if genocide were the aim, then why do Palestinians exist? Why have so many Israeli soldiers died in dangerous, close range combat?

 

[scaramanga]

You could see the testimonies of Dr's from the UK. Or the video footage. Or the pictures of the rubble. Or believe anyone other than the IDF.

The plural of anecdote isn't evidence.

 

[scaramanga]

. Not to mention giving his largest donor the keys to Parliament and having half the cabinet seemingly stay at his flat fvckpad - f**king weird.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Mikey10]

A symbolic daubing with blood red paint, to highlight to the british population that our government is enabling genocide

I’m sure that will make all the difference.

 

[LutonSpurs]

The plural of anecdote isn't evidence.

Not that you will respond to this seriously but the 300 plus bullets used on 6 year old Hind Rajab are not an anecdote.

 

[scaramanga]

Not that you will respond to this seriously but the 300 plus bullets used on 6 year old Hind Rajab are not an anecdote.

It's a war, people die.

Adding 1 to the non-combatant count doesn't change the fact that this is still the lowest ratio of non to combatants in modern history.

 

[LutonSpurs]

It's a war, people die.

Adding 1 to the non-combatant count doesn't change the fact that this is still the lowest ratio of non to combatants in modern history.

Do you have the data and sources for this nonsense claim?

 

[Mikey10]

Horrific.

Hamas used sexual violence as part of 'genocidal strategy', Israeli experts say https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mz8gxzg82o