Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Rorschach]

That's not how law works.

Are you conflating the actions of Israel against Palestine with the proscription of PA?
Because this conversation isn't about how abhorrent Israel is being.

It is how your morals work. I am showing what terrorism really is. That is the comparison

 

[monkeybarry]

I think you have missed the point really . And there are so many logical fallacies in this one paragraph that it would take me an hour to point them out. I'm going to ignore all the strawmen and go back to the original point. Is painting a plane an act of terrorism or are you happy to hide behind the law on this? The latter it seems. I disagree with the law on this, and certainly not with the morals behind it. It is as simple as that, and I won't be printing t-shirts.

I'm genuinely really disappointed with this from you - this is beneath you. It's very clear that I haven't missed the point - but you know what, enlighten me if you think I have......

(Re the law. No, I'm not "hiding behind it" (and don't be so fudging condescending) - I'm adhering to it; that's how the social contract works. I personally don't like this law, and many others - but that's a limitation of living in a society based upon law.)

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

What is the cost to the Treasury?

It doesn't really work like that though because you'll be losing the income from fuel duty etc etc but you're pushing down on inflation and releasing money into the economy meaning people spend more, businesses might take on more staff. Productivity is what really drives revenue as most of your revenue will come from the core taxes that target economic activity - VAT, income tax and corporation tax.

 

[monkeybarry]

It is how your morals work. I am showing what terrorism really is. That is the comparison

Elaborate upon how this is to with my morals (and I suggest you make it good).....

 

[Rorschach]

I'm genuinely really disappointed with this from you - this is beneath you. It's very clear that I haven't missed the point - but you know what, enlighten me if you think I have......

(Re the law. No, I'm not "hiding behind it" (and don't be so fudging condescending) - I'm adhering to it; that's how the social contract works. I personally don't like this law, and many others - but that's a limitation of living in a society based upon law.)

Whatever mate. I am disappointed in you too. Very.

 

[johnola]

1987. At a conference in Vancouver. Thatcher was trying to drum up international support for her apartheid pals, and declared Mandela and the ANC terrorists.

The ANC were based in London.

 

[thfcsteff]

Whatever mate. I am disappointed in you too. Very.

(also @monkeybarry...and apologies if this seems like I'm sticking my nose in ) Chaps...two great postees here...don't let this happen!!! Exchange the details of opinions, you're both well well worth it IMO (plus it's a really interesting exchange in my humble opinion)...FWIW, these times are stretching us all to insane limits IMO...