HOPE

[Nigeyman]

Beautiful word isnt it......

COYS!

 

[Baleforce]

... the cruelest thing of all

 

[paxtonwolf]

One of these days we are going to grab that dangling carrot

 

[Mumorn]

We are given hope every single season. We were given it last year and we had to beat Aston Villa of all teams to pretty much secure 3rd. We fudged up.

 

[stinkfoot]

I prefer belief.

 

[SPURSphenomenon]

I prefer belief.

This!

 

[Nigeyman]

I prefer belief.

you make me feel ashamed.....I do believe in our manager/future.

sorry its just hard to stay positive when they win all the time/get lucky breaks/dodgy refs.

I just feel we have been on a little slide and the result seems like a glimmer of light.....and im clinging to it.

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

Hope is Gareth Bale [-o<

 

[Alaric]

Sorry, I didn't know how to edit this. You'll have to skip to the 1:30 minute mark

[video]http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=XDGNsbLayJw[/video]

 

[thfcsteff]

you make me feel ashamed.....I do believe in our manager/future.

sorry its just hard to stay positive when they win all the time/get lucky breaks/dodgy refs.

I just feel we have been on a little slide and the result seems like a glimmer of light.....and im clinging to it.

Welcome brother!
I have taken some degrees of brick for my continually optimistic point of view. As have a few others who dared not to slit their wrists at the first sign of trouble.
To put it bluntly, I agree.

=D>

 

[DubaiSpur]

This is as divisive as the threads filled with negativity.

This is getting tiring, but for once I'd like our growing (and increasingly divided) sections of 'optimistic' and 'pessimistic' fans to come to an agreement on what exactly support means.

Because between the optimists going around like crusaders painting anyone not sharing the same blind belief in the team and the club as 'unworthy', and the pessimists throwing around words like 'deluded', 'mindless' and '*%&*', it's getting increasingly hard for a bewildered 'middle-ground' fan to decide what to make of it all.

 

[Spursalot]

This is as divisive as the threads filled with negativity.

This is getting tiring, but for once I'd like our growing (and increasingly divided) sections of 'optimistic' and 'pessimistic' fans to come to an agreement on what exactly support means.

Because between the optimists going around like crusaders painting anyone not sharing the same blind belief in the team and the club as 'unworthy', and the pessimists throwing around words like 'deluded', 'mindless' and '*%&*', it's getting increasingly hard for a bewildered 'middle-ground' fan to decide what to make of it all.

Most amusingly both thread creations have had a minimal amount to do with Spurs and everything to do with Arsenal.

 

[seaside spur]

Sorry, I didn't know how to edit this. You'll have to skip to the 1:30 minute mark

[video]http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=XDGNsbLayJw[/video]

I was just thinking of this movie and the opposing views of the two main characters, Red and Andy.

Red's Pessimistic view that hope will raise your spirits and give you belief and then ultimately leave you disappointed and devastated. Hope is therefore a dangerous thing.
Andys optimistic view is that without hope there is nothing. Hope keeps you alive and ultimately, with hope,what you wish for can come true.

I have taken Reds view all along, i tried not to hope or have any expecatation so as to avoid being disappointed again.

You know what, i will try and be like Andy from now on. I actually believe Martin Jol and Fulham will do us a favour and get at least a draw on Saturday and possibly Wednesday too.
Even if we lose to City,i think we will still have a chance.

Ultimately i don't know if we will have enough but i hope we will. I hope the end of season table is the same as i saw it in my dreams......i hope [-o<

 

[thfcsteff]

This is as divisive as the threads filled with negativity.

This is getting tiring, but for once I'd like our growing (and increasingly divided) sections of 'optimistic' and 'pessimistic' fans to come to an agreement on what exactly support means.

Because between the optimists going around like crusaders painting anyone not sharing the same blind belief in the team and the club as 'unworthy', and the pessimists throwing around words like 'deluded', 'mindless' and '*%&*', it's getting increasingly hard for a bewildered 'middle-ground' fan to decide what to make of it all.

What?
Next you'll be saying we should show respect at certain funerals!!!

 

[thfcsteff]

This is as divisive as the threads filled with negativity.

This is getting tiring, but for once I'd like our growing (and increasingly divided) sections of 'optimistic' and 'pessimistic' fans to come to an agreement on what exactly support means.

Because between the optimists going around like crusaders painting anyone not sharing the same blind belief in the team and the club as 'unworthy', and the pessimists throwing around words like 'deluded', 'mindless' and '*%&*', it's getting increasingly hard for a bewildered 'middle-ground' fan to decide what to make of it all.

Well, in my opinion, support is being able to tell the difference between disappointment and differing opinions on what will happen versus getting irrationally angry and 'wrist-slitty' about how hard we're going to fudge it all up. I have mostly tried to quietly repeat that the season ends in May, but when the same players get hung, drawn and quartered and the same people go on a tear about brick we are, well, PERSONALLY speaking, that's not really 'supporting' that's something else...

 

[Nigeyman]

This is as divisive as the threads filled with negativity.

This is getting tiring, but for once I'd like our growing (and increasingly divided) sections of 'optimistic' and 'pessimistic' fans to come to an agreement on what exactly support means.

Because between the optimists going around like crusaders painting anyone not sharing the same blind belief in the team and the club as 'unworthy', and the pessimists throwing around words like 'deluded', 'mindless' and '*%&*', it's getting increasingly hard for a bewildered 'middle-ground' fan to decide what to make of it all.

Appologies - I didnt intend to start a riot in this forum or cause friction between posters......this is my personal view as a fan.......I feel hope.......I feared the worst if our rivals won tonight .....just felt they might have been out of sight.

I dont claim to be anything else than a spurs supporter who wants what you do.....for our club to achieve its goals.....

I didnt start this thread to be divisive....no agenda.

Just a fan like you and im telling you how I feel. as a fellow fan you may feel the same or may disagree . thats ok.....but i like this forum as I like to see if fellow fans feel the same way I do??????? that 0-0 draw has given me hope ....thats all fella.

 

[DubaiSpur]

What?
Next you'll be saying we should show respect at certain funerals!!!

See, I don't mind compromise. If both sides agree to call her a ****, that's fine by me too.

In all seriousness, come on Steff. We don't need this stigmatization of the opposing side, not at this stage of the season. A whole lot of people use GG as a sort of group therapy anyway, and the last thing you need at Alcoholics Anonymous for example, is someone calling everyone new 'boozy ****s' and saying they don't deserve to be a teetotaler because they're depressed about their chances of quitting.

Constructive action is (rather sadly) the preserve of the optimists. You have a responsibility to try to life people out of their morass of doubt and negativity, and that isn't done by indirectly criticising those who don't believe as strongly as you do.

Psychology is tough, I know. But it's the way we are. Forging unity is always much harder than it looks on paper. It's why it was so difficult for Attlee, Bevan and the working class to build the welfare state: it took two world wars and a global economic crash in between before the aristocratic right-wing tendencies in British politics were swept away, taking the most successful war-time prime minister this country's ever had with them. But it's ludicrously easy to divide people again, as Thatcher proved by appealing to enough people's self-interests to make the fates of those who felt the brunt of her policies completely irrelevant.

Start by reconciling. Please. We don't need this brick now.

 

[DubaiSpur]

Appologies - I didnt intend to start a riot in this forum or cause friction between posters......this is my personal view as a fan.......I feel hope.......I feared the worst if our rivals won tonight .....just felt they might have been out of sight.

I dont claim to be anything else than a spurs supporter who wants what you do.....for our club to achieve its goals.....

I didnt start this thread to be divisive....no agenda.

Just a fan like you and im telling you how I feel. as a fellow fan you may feel the same or may disagree . thats ok.....but i like this forum as I like to see if fellow fans feel the same way I do??????? that 0-0 draw has given me hope ....thats all fella.

I know. It's not aimed at you alone, just at this recent pro/anti warring.

 

[NaijaSpurs]

Beautiful word isnt it......

COYS!

Hope is what kills you, that is why I do not have any left. Especially as bale is not going to be fit and we are going to be relying on that Ade to spearhead the attack against City. Not only are we not going to make the top 4 we do not deserve to and Levy can take the blame for not financing a strike force worthy of CL football

 

[africanspurs]

they drew against a top 6/ top 5 team. Nothings changed....in the schedule this is where they were going to drop points most likely as everton have quite a bit fo play for

hope will come if we beat city