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Gareth Bale
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DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Re: Gareth Bale
We've shifted Caulker, Hudd and Dempsey so far this window, while also releasing Bentley. If the reported fees are correct (Dempsey 6 million quid, Caulker 9 million quid and Hudd 5 million quid), that's 20 million already. We're also on the verge of offloading Parker, and I suspect we'd be willing to listen to offers for one of Rose or BAE (not sure which one, mind). Add to that our evident desire to shift Gomes and Ade, plus the reported 3 million from the Dos Santos deal, plus (I suspect) one of Lennon or Townsend (4 wingers is a bit overkill). We could possibly sell Kane and Coulibaly as well, although it isn't likely.
Sure, clubs don't do transfers in lump sums, so our spending and our income from sales won't be as predictable as I mentioned above, but that seems like it could easily be around 50 million quid from our shifted players alone. Factor in the money from the new TV deal and Joe Lewis' apparent injection, and I'd say spending 100 million pounds is eminently achievable. Eye-popping considering our history in summer transfer windows, but feasible.
edit: And as for spending 100 million to essentially keep Bale being a bit outre, I suspect the commercial value of tying him to the club for a while longer (in terms of raising our profile, landing us deals like the one we made with NBC and most importantly, finding a naming rights partner for the stadium) could easily match that amount in the long run.
We've shifted Caulker, Hudd and Dempsey so far this window, while also releasing Bentley. If the reported fees are correct (Dempsey 6 million quid, Caulker 9 million quid and Hudd 5 million quid), that's 20 million already. We're also on the verge of offloading Parker, and I suspect we'd be willing to listen to offers for one of Rose or BAE (not sure which one, mind). Add to that our evident desire to shift Gomes and Ade, plus the reported 3 million from the Dos Santos deal, plus (I suspect) one of Lennon or Townsend (4 wingers is a bit overkill). We could possibly sell Kane and Coulibaly as well, although it isn't likely.
Sure, clubs don't do transfers in lump sums, so our spending and our income from sales won't be as predictable as I mentioned above, but that seems like it could easily be around 50 million quid from our shifted players alone. Factor in the money from the new TV deal and Joe Lewis' apparent injection, and I'd say spending 100 million pounds is eminently achievable. Eye-popping considering our history in summer transfer windows, but feasible.
edit: And as for spending 100 million to essentially keep Bale being a bit outre, I suspect the commercial value of tying him to the club for a while longer (in terms of raising our profile, landing us deals like the one we made with NBC and most importantly, finding a naming rights partner for the stadium) could easily match that amount in the long run.
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Re: Gareth Bale
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Re: Gareth Bale
AS: Real Madrid offer €110m (including Fabio Coentrao) for Gareth Bale
The front page of Madrid-based paper AS once again features Gareth Bale on Thursday morning and they claim significant progress has been made in the on-going transfer saga of the Spurs forward.
According to Marco Ruiz, a journalist who has been stalking Bale during his stay with the Wales national team, Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is close to accepting a 110 million euro offer, which includes left-sided player Fabio Coentrao.
Spurs initially asked for Jese Rodriguez or Alvaro Morata to be included in the deal, but Real Madrid will only part with Coentrao who they value at 30 million euros.
The Portuguese international, who cost 25 million euros from Benfica, is valued by Tottenham at 20 million euros. AS say the latest offer is being discussed with the valuation of Coentrao a sticking point.
Levy wants 90 million euros and Coentrao, Real Madrid believe 85 million plus the former Benfica man is sufficient.
Tottenham are in no rush to sort out a deal with Real Madrid and feel the pressure will ratchet up on Bale once their Premier League campaign begins on Sunday.
“A source” is quoted by AS: ”Bale has spent three weeks with the same plan. He does not want to train, nor play games… seems to have made a final decision.”
Finally, AS add that Spurs have not given up hope of holding on to Bale and still hope to discuss a new deal with the Welsh forward in the coming days.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/a...0m-including-fabio-coentrao-for-gareth-bale/?
AS: Real Madrid offer €110m (including Fabio Coentrao) for Gareth Bale
The front page of Madrid-based paper AS once again features Gareth Bale on Thursday morning and they claim significant progress has been made in the on-going transfer saga of the Spurs forward.
According to Marco Ruiz, a journalist who has been stalking Bale during his stay with the Wales national team, Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is close to accepting a 110 million euro offer, which includes left-sided player Fabio Coentrao.
Spurs initially asked for Jese Rodriguez or Alvaro Morata to be included in the deal, but Real Madrid will only part with Coentrao who they value at 30 million euros.
The Portuguese international, who cost 25 million euros from Benfica, is valued by Tottenham at 20 million euros. AS say the latest offer is being discussed with the valuation of Coentrao a sticking point.
Levy wants 90 million euros and Coentrao, Real Madrid believe 85 million plus the former Benfica man is sufficient.
Tottenham are in no rush to sort out a deal with Real Madrid and feel the pressure will ratchet up on Bale once their Premier League campaign begins on Sunday.
“A source” is quoted by AS: ”Bale has spent three weeks with the same plan. He does not want to train, nor play games… seems to have made a final decision.”
Finally, AS add that Spurs have not given up hope of holding on to Bale and still hope to discuss a new deal with the Welsh forward in the coming days.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/a...0m-including-fabio-coentrao-for-gareth-bale/?
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Ilie Dumitrescu
Re: Gareth Bale
AS is taking one step back then. Cant remember them saying we want to discuss a new deal with Bale? All good signs, the Real Madrid papers is going to do one he** of a turnaround when he stays:lol:
AS is taking one step back then. Cant remember them saying we want to discuss a new deal with Bale? All good signs, the Real Madrid papers is going to do one he** of a turnaround when he stays:lol:
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Serge Aurier
Re: Gareth Bale
Interesting thing about Bale's injury though, remember end of last season when we were rushing to get him back fit for the last games....
Now it appears he has a much less serious injury and we aren't rushing him back......
Interesting thing about Bale's injury though, remember end of last season when we were rushing to get him back fit for the last games....
Now it appears he has a much less serious injury and we aren't rushing him back......
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Chris Armstrong
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Les Ferdinand
Re: Gareth Bale
Those players at best would fetch 40m hence the net spend of 60m - give or take a few. Whilst the majority of signings are installments, they still are accounted for, whilst the cash spent wont be 60m in accounting terms it will have been. I would love it if you were right, and we just went hell for leather this season. Its still gonna look like a bit of a troubled start this season what with the Bale saga and some of the players not having an adequate pre season.
As for the last bit, yeah I agree there could be income from the commercial side which will have helped im sure. In total and in hindsight a net spend of 50-60m isnt out of our reach
Those players at best would fetch 40m hence the net spend of 60m - give or take a few. Whilst the majority of signings are installments, they still are accounted for, whilst the cash spent wont be 60m in accounting terms it will have been. I would love it if you were right, and we just went hell for leather this season. Its still gonna look like a bit of a troubled start this season what with the Bale saga and some of the players not having an adequate pre season.
As for the last bit, yeah I agree there could be income from the commercial side which will have helped im sure. In total and in hindsight a net spend of 50-60m isnt out of our reach
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Michael Carrick
Re: Gareth Bale
I agree with you on our spending potential, but I don't think after this summer we would keep Bale for another 2 years. If we get him for this season we will have done very well, and then he will be on his way.
I agree with you on our spending potential, but I don't think after this summer we would keep Bale for another 2 years. If we get him for this season we will have done very well, and then he will be on his way.
Re: Gareth Bale
Just thinking out loud here...
I think Bale is gone. I know it's a tired subject, but we've already spent 50+ million on 3 players and apparently are looking to get Lamela and Ericksen as well?? Do people think we've turned into the Mancs over night? The stories about Joe wanting to spend 50 mill are great and all but you've got to admit the timing is a bit funny. Just think back over the last couple of transfer windows when we've been in dire need of a striker and nothing... (cue arguments about Levy not wanting to invest in Harry's players and now wanting to invest in AVB). So now Joe wants to spend it all?? If we'd had Soldado last year surely we'd be Champs league, no? I just dont get it.
So if we look at it..
Bale = 90
Caulker = 8
Parker = 3
Hudd = 6
Dempsey = 7
= 114 Million GBP
Paulinho = 19
Soldado = 26
Chadli = 7
Capoue = 9
(Lamela) = 28
(Eriksen) = 11
= 100 Million GBP
That still leaves us with some room to find a CB and possibly a young forward but not much. If these rumors about Lamela and Eriksen are true we'd be looking at a net loss of 75 Million GBP. And even if we don't sign Lamela and Eriksen we're still in the hole 35 mill. I really do think it's a case of us spending Bale's transfer fee before he leaves us.
So we're looking at this plus about 10 Million GBP...
or this with a debt of -75 Million GBP:
Obviously the second is a stronger side, think it might even be favorites to win the title. The only problem is that negative 75 million posted just above. It's just not realistic. We've never had a net loss close to that in any window before, so why now? I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just can't see it.
Just thinking out loud here...
I think Bale is gone. I know it's a tired subject, but we've already spent 50+ million on 3 players and apparently are looking to get Lamela and Ericksen as well?? Do people think we've turned into the Mancs over night? The stories about Joe wanting to spend 50 mill are great and all but you've got to admit the timing is a bit funny. Just think back over the last couple of transfer windows when we've been in dire need of a striker and nothing... (cue arguments about Levy not wanting to invest in Harry's players and now wanting to invest in AVB). So now Joe wants to spend it all?? If we'd had Soldado last year surely we'd be Champs league, no? I just dont get it.
So if we look at it..
Bale = 90
Caulker = 8
Parker = 3
Hudd = 6
Dempsey = 7
= 114 Million GBP
Paulinho = 19
Soldado = 26
Chadli = 7
Capoue = 9
(Lamela) = 28
(Eriksen) = 11
= 100 Million GBP
That still leaves us with some room to find a CB and possibly a young forward but not much. If these rumors about Lamela and Eriksen are true we'd be looking at a net loss of 75 Million GBP. And even if we don't sign Lamela and Eriksen we're still in the hole 35 mill. I really do think it's a case of us spending Bale's transfer fee before he leaves us.
So we're looking at this plus about 10 Million GBP...
Chadli - Soldado - Lamela
Eriksen - Paulinho
- Sandro -
Rose - Verts - Kaboom - Walker
Lloris
Eriksen - Paulinho
- Sandro -
Rose - Verts - Kaboom - Walker
Lloris
or this with a debt of -75 Million GBP:
Lamela - Soldado - Bale
Eriksen - Paulinho
- Sandro -
Rose - Verts - Kaboom - Walker
Lloris
Eriksen - Paulinho
- Sandro -
Rose - Verts - Kaboom - Walker
Lloris
Obviously the second is a stronger side, think it might even be favorites to win the title. The only problem is that negative 75 million posted just above. It's just not realistic. We've never had a net loss close to that in any window before, so why now? I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just can't see it.
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Serge Aurier
Re: Gareth Bale
depends man, if we get Champions league and say 3rd place, or we wint an FA Cup and Champions League, or dare I say it we kepp Bale and win the premier league (very very unlikely) he might be happy where he is.
depends man, if we get Champions league and say 3rd place, or we wint an FA Cup and Champions League, or dare I say it we kepp Bale and win the premier league (very very unlikely) he might be happy where he is.
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Ilie Dumitrescu
Re: Gareth Bale
Just thinking out loud here...
You use your brain too much and it makes sense - stop it
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DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Re: Gareth Bale
Well, firstly, it depends. Even though Bale's head has been turned, I don't believe that he can't be persuaded to stay till 2015 once the window shuts. Stranger U-turns have happened, and if we strengthen the way I think we will and achieve both (This is critical) a trophy of some sort and CL football, his desire to leave won't really be as intense as it reportedly is this season. Plus, we can probably offer him a record contract to sweeten the deal: again, given our savings on wages should the likes of Ade and Bentley leave, offering him 150k a week doesn't seem inconceivable.
And in reply to VolSpur, firstly, I don't think we'll go for Eriksen and Lamela. One of the two. Not both. Secondly, I believe Paulinho was 17 million, not 19. And thirdly, Lamela would cost more than 28 (Roma bought him for a reported fee of 17 million quid, so they'd be looking to at least double that). And when you add a new centre-back, back-up striker and left back to the mix, then it does get a bit excessive, granted.
However, consider our squad for a moment. We've sold Dempsey, Caulker and Hudd, and are on the verge of selling Parker. But, like I mentioned before, that leaves a lot of players with decent sell-on value that we don't particularly need. Ade, for one, who the Besiktas president has repeatedly confirmed that he's bid 5.5 million for. Townsend or Lennon, either of whom I can't see netting us less than 9-10 million quid in any deal. Rose or BAE- more likely BAE, but weren't Sunderland quoted earlier on as saying that we wanted 8.5 million for Rose or something similar?
Gomes, Falque, and our youth talents we won't be likely to use (Kane and Coulibaly) also come into the picture, as does the 3 million sell-on fee we got for Dos Santos. All in all, there's a lot of squad weight we can shift without affecting squad depth, and I can't see us not wanting to do so but selling Bale instead. If we can raise 50 million from all that lot (including the already concluded Dempsey, Caulker and Hudd deals), spread across installments over a few years, then we'll have effectively covered the spending done on Paulinho, Soldado and Chadli. Then, if the money from the new TV deal comes into play, plus any alleged spending money allocated by Joe Lewis, then like I said before, it isn't inconceivable that we could keep Bale and spend some 50 million more than we already have.
Lloris
Friedel
Archer
Walker
Naughton
Daws
Kaboul
Verts
back-up CB
BAE
new LB
Sandro
Capoue
Paulinho
Dembele
Holtby
Sigurdsson
Chadli
Lennon/Townsend
Bale
Lamela
Soldado
back-up striker
Defoe
That's a 24 man squad including our projected buys and excluding the squad players I've mentioned previously. And that looks fine to me. Hell, you don't need the new LB particularly, so if you stick Rose back in that spot you will have reduced transfer expenditure while still allowing for us to go ahead and get Lamela, a new CB and a new striker.
Well, firstly, it depends. Even though Bale's head has been turned, I don't believe that he can't be persuaded to stay till 2015 once the window shuts. Stranger U-turns have happened, and if we strengthen the way I think we will and achieve both (This is critical) a trophy of some sort and CL football, his desire to leave won't really be as intense as it reportedly is this season. Plus, we can probably offer him a record contract to sweeten the deal: again, given our savings on wages should the likes of Ade and Bentley leave, offering him 150k a week doesn't seem inconceivable.
And in reply to VolSpur, firstly, I don't think we'll go for Eriksen and Lamela. One of the two. Not both. Secondly, I believe Paulinho was 17 million, not 19. And thirdly, Lamela would cost more than 28 (Roma bought him for a reported fee of 17 million quid, so they'd be looking to at least double that). And when you add a new centre-back, back-up striker and left back to the mix, then it does get a bit excessive, granted.
However, consider our squad for a moment. We've sold Dempsey, Caulker and Hudd, and are on the verge of selling Parker. But, like I mentioned before, that leaves a lot of players with decent sell-on value that we don't particularly need. Ade, for one, who the Besiktas president has repeatedly confirmed that he's bid 5.5 million for. Townsend or Lennon, either of whom I can't see netting us less than 9-10 million quid in any deal. Rose or BAE- more likely BAE, but weren't Sunderland quoted earlier on as saying that we wanted 8.5 million for Rose or something similar?
Gomes, Falque, and our youth talents we won't be likely to use (Kane and Coulibaly) also come into the picture, as does the 3 million sell-on fee we got for Dos Santos. All in all, there's a lot of squad weight we can shift without affecting squad depth, and I can't see us not wanting to do so but selling Bale instead. If we can raise 50 million from all that lot (including the already concluded Dempsey, Caulker and Hudd deals), spread across installments over a few years, then we'll have effectively covered the spending done on Paulinho, Soldado and Chadli. Then, if the money from the new TV deal comes into play, plus any alleged spending money allocated by Joe Lewis, then like I said before, it isn't inconceivable that we could keep Bale and spend some 50 million more than we already have.
Lloris
Friedel
Archer
Walker
Naughton
Daws
Kaboul
Verts
back-up CB
BAE
new LB
Sandro
Capoue
Paulinho
Dembele
Holtby
Sigurdsson
Chadli
Lennon/Townsend
Bale
Lamela
Soldado
back-up striker
Defoe
That's a 24 man squad including our projected buys and excluding the squad players I've mentioned previously. And that looks fine to me. Hell, you don't need the new LB particularly, so if you stick Rose back in that spot you will have reduced transfer expenditure while still allowing for us to go ahead and get Lamela, a new CB and a new striker.
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Michael Carrick
Re: Gareth Bale
Our midfield is absolutely ridiculous there. So good. Depth and quality coming out of our arses.
Our midfield is absolutely ridiculous there. So good. Depth and quality coming out of our arses.
Rock Strongo
dodgy Dave Goosegog
Re: Gareth Bale
So clearly, he's going if the sum is right, and they think Real might come up with the cash. Otherwise, they could have just told Bale the deal isn't happening and have him lace up his boots.
So clearly, he's going if the sum is right, and they think Real might come up with the cash. Otherwise, they could have just told Bale the deal isn't happening and have him lace up his boots.