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harr1984 said:
Now perhaps yes. And anyway I was saying moderate in comparison to Man U who dwarf us in that area, perhaps there is a better descriptive word out there. However you want to put it, it has been easier for us to increase our commercial revenue streams than a club already at the very top in that area like Man U....
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£297m to £360m. They'll be out of cl for 2 years so will take a big hit. We'll have cl. So we'll be pretty close this season.
You think of the success and the size of club they are compared to us then their commercial department hasn't really done a better job than ours.
 
SirPercyHotspur said:
These podcasts are full of rubbish , 20 minutes in he says ENIC have no money and their accounts are dormant :D
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S2E48 | Behind the Curtain at Spurs: Ownership, Power & PSR

Podcast Episode · The Lab (Tottenham Hotspur Podcast) · 03/07/2025 · 1h 14m
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It would appear that the so called expert being interviewed on the podcast is looking at the wrong ENIC . At Companies House there are two ENIC companies one is ENIC Group the other ENIC Ltd, bothregistered at Lilywhite House both have Collecott and Levy as directors. ENIC Group is in fact shown as a dormant company and it is shown that ENIC Ltd have significant control of ENIC Group and the person shown as having significant control of ENIC Ltd is Mr Donovan Gijsbertus Wijmuller Correspondence address 17 Esplanade, St.Helier, Jersey, JE2 3QA, would assume he is a solicitor or lawyer.


The“expert” should have looked into the accounts of ENIC Sports Inc. who own 198,309,971 shares in Tottenham Hotspur Limited and therefore are the parent company but as they are registered in The Bahamas unless you have the authority it's not so easy to look at their accounts , that's where cash injections to TH Limited have come from.
 
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Not sure why we need these ex Manure people , Levy and others have done fine , according to Deloitte figures from 2006 (earliest I can find), commercial income for Manure was 73 million euros and Spurs 40 million, in the latest money league Manure 360 million , Spurs 297 million. Manure percentage increase 393% , Spurs 642%
 
I see City have just re-negotiated with Puma a new ten year £100m a year deal. We are stuck at £30m till 2033 as we signed a long term deal before refinancing the stadium debt to help us get good rates. Based on that I’d imagine our market value for a deal would be around £60-70m.
 
tw12yid said:
I see City have just re-negotiated with Puma a new ten year £100m a year deal. We are stuck at £30m till 2033 as we signed a long term deal before refinancing the stadium debt to help us get good rates. Based on that I’d imagine our market value for a deal would be around £60-70m.
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Levy was asked about our shirt deal by THST back in 2019, apparently we kept our merchandise rights that some other clubs sell , all very confusing.

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Report from the Trust meeting with the Spurs Board on 12 March 2019

On the evening of Tuesday 12 March 2019, representatives of the Trust Board met with representatives of the Spurs Executive Board and
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tw12yid said:
I see City have just re-negotiated with Puma a new ten year £100m a year deal. We are stuck at £30m till 2033 as we signed a long term deal before refinancing the stadium debt to help us get good rates. Based on that I’d imagine our market value for a deal would be around £60-70m.
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Not as straight forward as that. As there are different percentages of each shirt sale. £100m might be no percentage. While £30m might mean we get 30% of each shirt sold. Which could add up.
Won't be £70m. But then using city's deals as a yard stick is stupid as we know they're gonads.
 
Lilbaz said:
Not as straight forward as that. As there are different percentages of each shirt sale. £100m might be no percentage. While £30m might mean we get 30% of each shirt sold. Which could add up.
Won't be £70m. But then using city's deals as a yard stick is stupid as we know they're gonads.
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Yep
That’s nailed it
It’s not straight forward at all
 
Yiddo said:
The trio, along with another former United commercial executive Tom Liston-Jones, who was head of data and strategy, have established a new 20-strong agency, which will be known as Altius8. It has agreed a deal with Spurs chairman Levy
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Sooooo the headline says Levy has hired them... as in, recruited them into a job at Spurs.... but he hasn't hired them at all, he's engaged their agency to work with Spurs, right??
 
Lilbaz said:
Not as straight forward as that. As there are different percentages of each shirt sale. £100m might be no percentage. While £30m might mean we get 30% of each shirt sold. Which could add up.
Won't be £70m. But then using city's deals as a yard stick is stupid as we know they're gonads.
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Bedfordspurs said:
Yep
That’s nailed it
It’s not straight forward at all
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And they are also City and we are Spurs............

But all this is correct,
 
tw12yid said:
I see City have just re-negotiated with Puma a new ten year £100m a year deal. We are stuck at £30m till 2033 as we signed a long term deal before refinancing the stadium debt to help us get good rates. Based on that I’d imagine our market value for a deal would be around £60-70m.
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We’re also losing out by not having naming rights nailed down.
 
tw12yid said:
I see City have just re-negotiated with Puma a new ten year £100m a year deal. We are stuck at £30m till 2033 as we signed a long term deal before refinancing the stadium debt to help us get good rates. Based on that I’d imagine our market value for a deal would be around £60-70m.
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I would assume any middle eastern club are getting market rates. It'll just be a new avenue of PRS fiddling
 
Eventually when we max out revenues with stadium naming rights and other non football revenue, how competitive will we be financially?

Liverpool, Emirates Marketing Project and Chelsea seems untouchable
Not sure what's happening to Man U
Arsenal seems to be within reach
Villa and Saudi Sportswashing Machine seem to have maxed out.

4th/5th until a new owner comes along?
 
metalgear said:
Eventually when we max out revenues with stadium naming rights and other non football revenue, how competitive will we be financially?

Liverpool, Emirates Marketing Project and Chelsea seems untouchable
Not sure what's happening to Man U
Arsenal seems to be within reach
Villa and Saudi Sportswashing Machine seem to have maxed out.

4th/5th until a new owner comes along?
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Liverpool, United and Arsenal are the only sustainable ones. The rest will crash over the coming decade as big oil begins to die.
 
metalgear said:
Eventually when we max out revenues with stadium naming rights and other non football revenue, how competitive will we be financially?

Liverpool, Emirates Marketing Project and Chelsea seems untouchable
Not sure what's happening to Man U
Arsenal seems to be within reach
Villa and Saudi Sportswashing Machine seem to have maxed out.

4th/5th until a new owner comes along?
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Even pre Stadium getting additional non sporting events approved, potential naming rights and this years CL (plus next club world cup) we have in past few years (at times) been competitive/ahead of Arsenal, Chelsea, well ahead of Villa & Saudi Sportswashing Machine.

United commercially has always been the outlier in PL, it will be interesting to see how their continued lack of Europe and success impacts that, but it will probably be a few years yet.

If you really look at numbers, yes 4th/5th, with a massive gap in revenue year over year between 6th and everyone else.
 
Raziel said:
Even pre Stadium getting additional non sporting events approved, potential naming rights and this years CL (plus next club world cup) we have in past few years (at times) been competitive/ahead of Arsenal, Chelsea, well ahead of Villa & Saudi Sportswashing Machine.

United commercially has always been the outlier in PL, it will be interesting to see how their continued lack of Europe and success impacts that, but it will probably be a few years yet.

If you really look at numbers, yes 4th/5th, with a massive gap in revenue year over year between 6th and everyone else.
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2 years out of the cl means some of their deals will be cut. Adidas think it's something like 30%.
 
metalgear said:
Eventually when we max out revenues with stadium naming rights and other non football revenue, how competitive will we be financially?

Liverpool, Emirates Marketing Project and Chelsea seems untouchable
Not sure what's happening to Man U
Arsenal seems to be within reach
Villa and Saudi Sportswashing Machine seem to have maxed out.

4th/5th until a new owner comes along?
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This coming season (ie June 25-june 26)...,it wouldn't surprise me if revenues hit £600-650m.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Deserved for the regen of the area..........
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As you say Levy has received the City of London honour for the regeneration and financial impact but many will have a moan as usual. Figures below were from circa 2022/23 before the max 30 events were allowed , how much being generated now?

EY economists said the gross value added (GVA) generated across London reached £478 million in 2021/22, of which £296 million was in Spurs’ home borough of Haringey. If Enfield and Waltham Forest are included the GVA impact was £344 million last season — the first since the new stadium opened that it could be filled to its 62,850 capacity without pandemic restrictions.
This compares with just £120 million in 2015. The total is forecast to increase to £585 million by 2027.
 
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