Daisuk
Andy Thompson
Just one of these guys that say things on x. Some other guys say this. Probably just gonads.
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Just one of these guys that say things on x. Some other guys say this. Probably just gonads.
I said it post the last Levy and new CEO interview
No way Levy suddenly went from the guy we know for 25 years (conservative, measured) to "EL win not enough, we need to win PL & CL" without knowing something changed.
Whatever it is, feels like we have access to more investment
Yiddo
Steffen Freund
Seems they are making brick up at the same time as us dropping £120m on 2 players to make the flimflam look more realistic.
£120m + £30m tel + £20m Danso + £9m Vuskovic + £5m Takai +....
Didn't matt law say we were skint?
Yiddo
Steffen Freund
Last time we spent decent money on various different players before we sold was when we sold Bale. I think Romero, Richie and Son are all off.
What's decent money? Last season €185m we sold skipp, royal, rodon. Season before that €272m but we sold kane.
Bedfordspurs
Graham Roberts
Fine with that
Bedfordspurs
Graham Roberts
Cash poor
But he is a fudgetard
ricky2tricky4city
Luka Modric
Might as well use the hydroponic lights under the South Stand for something.
I think someone else nailed it when they said it's a good time to throw these sorts of rumours around as people will engage given that we're throwing money around and it stacks up - but I don't really see anything out of the ordinary here
Skint means having no cash.
Bedfordspurs
Graham Roberts
He is a fudgetard
thfcsteff
Vivian Woodward
Yup. Absolutely. It all comes back to Venkateshum being here because he can affect things/is running some new plays. Make no mistake, there is significant stuff going down...
thfcsteff
Vivian Woodward
...what happens in the next two to three months will tell us an awful lot. I think there's going to be some stuff to tell personally. It's not
Nostradamus stuff, the writing is on the wall. They turfed out Munn, Donna Cullen's departure was known to be coming, Vinai would've been a work in progress for months plus he is not the sort who shows up for a paycheck. I think there's still stuff going on. We'll see how it all shakes out money-wise, but I definitely think we are entering a new era and way of operation. If we are also serious about Wharton, and if that happens, we would be ticking a lot of boxes...
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Yes...this is what I've been hoping. That VV meant a meaningful difference in how we did things. It's not just the money, it's that we are moving aggressive and early for our top targets. We are confident in our position in the market and know we can compete. This is what it takes and I'm glad we are doing it.
There may be some restructuring left to do but unless there's some actual big time investment coming in then any restructure is not going change anything dramatically in terms of what budgets are available. Two or three 50-60m signings doesn't signal a change in approach imv - not when you actually look at our transfer spend over the last few seasons. This is just what we've been building towards.
thfcsteff
Vivian Woodward
Aside from the investment stuff (I'd say we should 'watch this space') I think if we sign Kudus, MGW and Wharton in one window -ontop of Tel - without any outgoings being done first (you feel Richie might not be here come August) then it is undeniable that there has been a change in how we're approaching buying players at least.
I think the approach is definitely different in comparison to previous seasons. We have signed usually one 50-60m player in the window, and not usually this early. But here we have two of them and no messing around - straight in for start of pre season. Like you say, it could well have been what we have been gearing towards but I think it's fair to say two big moves like this within days and so early is unprecedented. The problem is now we are getting them in earlier, each passing week we don't sign someone else you know there will be complaining in certain quarters
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Muttley
Tim Sherwood
I think the approach is definitely different in comparison to previous seasons. We have signed usually one 50-60m player in the window, and not usually this early. But here we have two of them and no messing around - straight in for start of pre season. Like you say, it could well have been what we have been gearing towards but I think it's fair to say two big moves like this within days and so early is unprecedented. The problem is now we are getting them in earlier, each passing week we don't sign someone else you know there will be complaining in certain quarters
Just a thought here, but we always could have bought 2 or maybe 3 signature signings. However we always chose to buy 5 or 6
24/25 - Solanke, Gray, Odobert, Bergval, Kinsky. Yang - 185m Euros
23/24 - Johnson, Maddison, VDV, Porro, Kulu, Dragu, Vic, Veliz, Phillips - 272m
22/23 - Richarlison, Romero, Bissouma, Udogie, Spence - 180m
Once you remove the Kane money, we can see where the annual gross spending is. The other seasons we've perhaps scraped together about 50m in sales. In the season he left it was more like 120m.
This summer we've already followed a similar pattern - Kudus, Tel, Danso, Vuskovic, Takai - and are already at 140m Euro spend. I think we've had some back for Hojbjerg, Marcus Edwards and Cardoso (?).
So in a CL season, I can see us buying MGW and tipping closer to the 200m Euro mark.
Then if we carry on, without covering every other purchase with a few sales, the Wharton is a real possibility.
It's only after that do I think something bigger behind the scenes is happening at the club. Perhaps it is.