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Cristian Romero

Gutter Boy said:
He did get their first. He did win the ball. The collision came with the momentum after the clearance
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He had possession, he was playing the ball.

I keep seeing people refer to it as a bad tackle, it isn't a tackle at all, Casimero is the one tackling, he's put his foot in the path of follow through.

I get Romero did a follow through, I get he's an idiot for giving Oliver the excuse (he couldn't fudging wait), but I don't see it as the stone wall red everyone else seems to, and a few people have posted similar tackles this season that did get red, so same old consistency issue and players being booked/protected based on club/reputation
 
SteveAWOL said:
Mon capitaine 🟨🟥

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People will say “his reputation got him sent off today”. Well perhaps don’t get a reputation for being a dirty player who accumulates cards in the first place.

Another line that gets trotted out is that he “plays on the edge”. He needs to manage how close he gets to the edge. Any regular on GG will know that Lamela was never a favourite of mine, but he was a player who was dirty but was a master of putting his toe on or over the line. Think he only got 1 red card in his career at Spurs? Romero obliterates the line.
 
His reputation is the prime argument for selling him. Unlike other defenders, who frequently get away with elbows, stamps and cynical fouls, Romero will never get any leeway from the refs - quite the opposite. The narrative is just too strong.
 
Robbo said:
His reputation is the prime argument for selling him. Unlike other defenders, who frequently get away with elbows, stamps and cynical fouls, Romero will never get any leeway from the refs - quite the opposite. The narrative is just too strong.
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It why we need Europe-wide referees. Just because the 10 plebs here have group thunk decided he has baggage.
 
Robbo said:
His reputation is the prime argument for selling him. Unlike other defenders, who frequently get away with elbows, stamps and cynical fouls, Romero will never get any leeway from the refs - quite the opposite. The narrative is just too strong.
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Was about to post the same thing. It’s similar with players who dive. They will not get the benefit of the doubt. He is a dirty player. He’s probably got away with more than a few dodgy tackles because the refs/VAR dropped the ball, but the 50/50 ones just aren’t going to go in his favour.
 
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Compare and contrast Romero to Palhinha. Both are tough tacklers both are leaders but Palhinha is much more controlled and focused on just winning the ball when he tackles and does so, mostly cleanly (even then he often gets carded harshly like today). Romero is so often reckless when tackling, I think because he overcommits and that's before you consider that he is also not great at reading the game so gets caught out of position.

Personally I don't think Romero is a great defender at all. In fact I think Palhinha is better. Just think back to how brilliantly Palhinha marshalled Semenyo last week. Could Romero have done that? For me the answer unfortunately is no.
 
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Mabspurs said:
If an opponent had done that "clearance" to one of our players, and not get sent off, we would be livid!!! And rightly so!

What is with this blind groupie mentality??!! FFS, don't debase yourself trying to justify the unjustifiable. The guy is a walking nutcase and has a brainfart in him every playing minute.... he has been sent off more than any of our players have been in the premiership, and - for all his ability - has let us down and cost us games and points, more times that I can remember!
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totalspurs said:
I know the Romero haters will be out in force today.
And I'm being clear that I'm not talking about people being critical about what happened today.

But he's gone in low and hard for the tackle outside the box. The ball is there to be challenged for.... what do you expect any Spurs player to do, in that situation?

If he pulls out and Cassimero wins the ball and utd score a goal, would we criticise him for pulling out of the original tackle?

I would expect all our players to always go in fully committed to try and win the ball. Sometimes the other man gets there a split second before you, that's football, it's a foul and a yellow card.

It wasn't what I call a late challenge, or a high challenge or even a cynical challenge.

We've seen for the past 4 games how passionate he has been and how determined he's been for the team to try and win or get a point from losing positions, today it's gone against him.

Now if we are going to write him off for being far too passionate, and being far too committed in challenges then, I'm sorry but that's just rubbish.

I know sometimes people lose the plot when they get too syked up, but I don't think he was playing like that today.

I'd rather have players like this in our squad.
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His record is that he has been sent off once in every 25 games for us. He’s a lunatic.
 
Raziel said:
He had possession, he was playing the ball.

I keep seeing people refer to it as a bad tackle, it isn't a tackle at all, Casimero is the one tackling, he's put his foot in the path of follow through.

I get Romero did a follow through, I get he's an idiot for giving Oliver the excuse (he couldn't fudging wait), but I don't see it as the stone wall red everyone else seems to, and a few people have posted similar tackles this season that did get red, so same old consistency issue and players being booked/protected based on club/reputation
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It why we need Europe-wide referees. Just because the 10 plebs here have group thunk decided he has baggage.
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Given the clip posted above you both obviously disagree with the person who made the tackle, who has apparently apologised for it, and his manager, who says he has watched it five times and says it is a red.

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, though, I suppose.
 
SirPercyHotspur said:
That is an awful record for a club captain, it's just not acceptable.
At least we know Palhinha can do a reasonable job at CB if needed, not sure why he got a yellow today he clearly won the ball and the follow through wasn't particulary dangerous.

Romero out for four PL matches , he will be very fresh for the 1st leg of round of 16 in the CL on 9/11 March, love to see us to be undefeated four in a row without him and then see what Frank does.
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he tends to be arsed in Europe, so that is good news
 
Mikey10 said:
Given the clip posted above you both obviously disagree with the person who made the tackle, who has apparently apologised for it, and his manager, who says he has watched it five times and says it is a red.

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, though, I suppose.
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You'd apologise for the consequential loss, but not the act itself, as there was really no fault in that (unless we expect players to shirk tackles)
 
Bullet said:
No it isn't. Wash your mouth out.
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I accept it was a metaphor in poor taste and frustration.

Not going to be patronised by anyone (however) on a topic which is affecting my life on a daily basis. So there's one back at you.

BTW I found your metaphor regarding Romero and Brazilians to be feeding into a cliche narrative that pulls on stereotypes, or is he now not allowed to try and play the ball past a Brazilian???? Anyone who thinks that collision was at his instigation (let alone intentional) needs their eyes or confirmation bias checked...IMO!

You'll be relieved to know I am not doing pod tomm (in Brixton for Underworld NUXX dates) and then Newcash home before heading back to utopia!
 
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Robspur12 said:
Compare and contrast Romero to Palhinha. Both are tough tacklers both are leaders but Palhinha is much more controlled and focused on just winning the ball when he tackles and does so, mostly cleanly (even then he often gets carded harshly like today). Romero is so often reckless when tackling, I think because he overcommits and that's before you consider that he is also not great at reading the game so gets caught out of position.

Personally I don't think Romero is a great defender at all. In fact I think Palhinha is better. Just think back to how brilliantly Palhinha marshalled Semenyo last week. Could Romero have done that? For me the answer unfortunately is no.
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In a way you proved your point. Palhinha made a perfectly clean tackle, 2nd in a week, and he got yellows both times.

It's not about victimization, you play for Spurs, most times you won't get the rub of the green, you play for any top club that regularly bitches about it, somehow you get away with it.

The tackle on Gallagher at start of game with keeper off his line, Shaw's elbow on Souza, there were about 2-3 others that if the player was on our side, there would have been a card.

I hate it, but the best way is not to accept it, but do the cringe, write letters, demand explanations, make a scene, that's what is being rewarded.
 
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