Brennan Johnson

[Bedfordspurs]

And that's another part of the consideration.

We could afford the likes of the PSG left winger whose name I won't try and spell because @Bullet will come after me but not stump up the wages....

Maybe we could if he costs £20m less

 

[harr1984]

If we could find a player that could do the same but for half the price why wouldn't we?

If the club think savinho is the player we need and are happy with the price. Then fine. But lets not pretend it's not a lot of money. It is big money.

If the club had found that available player for a cheaper price they would obviously be in for him

Yeah it's a lot of money, no one has said otherwise. Your last paragraph just sums up what the point has been the whole time....

 

[Muttley]

Richie stats you quote are for him at cf by the way

Sure, but in a system that was setup for the 9 to be a Firmino and the 2 wide players to pick up equal goals.

My original point was that with the right side being so strong with Porro / Kudus AND Frank's instruction to cross it early then it would be interesting to see Richi coming in off the left and attacking that far post. The impact aerially of Richi and Solanke in combination would be interesting.

 

[Muttley]

If we could find a player that could do the same but for half the price why wouldn't we?

If the club think savinho is the player we need and are happy with the price. Then fine. But lets not pretend it's not a lot of money. It is big money.

I think the price is a red herring. His £31m transfer was between 2 of the 13 City Group clubs. It was a controlled environment.

The only price that matters is the one that Spurs value him at in their minds. We don't have a clue what that is yet. All we can do is trust the process.

 

[parklane1]

To get in to positions to, and then be able to consistently take the opportunity to score is a extremely rare trait that you are massively underestimating

Could not agree more, he is a player who can find the back of the net and does so with ease. He does not take players on on the wing but that is not his strength. IMO he gets a lot of unfair slagging by some fans [ its all about op inions though] and seeing as he has to play with a lot of slagging by those fans he still gets into the posistions to score those goals.

 

[Lilbaz]

Could not agree more, he is a player who can find the back of the net and does so with ease. He does not take players on on the wing but that is not his strength. IMO he gets a lot of unfair slagging by some fans [ its all about op inions though] and seeing as he has to play with a lot of slagging by some fans he still gets into the posistions to score those goals.

Rather him than lamela.

 

[Mabspurs]

That’s the kicker for me
More money that Kvashielle
More money than doue (yep younger player and not as proven)
More than Olise
I just think that for that money I’d want guarantees
We buy Kudus but that was a dead cert. I think Savio is too but for a club with a history of BIG money guys being brought off the back of a few seasons that worries me (tanguy still leaves his legacy)

Would those three come, though? Answer = no

In Savio we are probably closest to a "almost world-class talent" as we possibly can get. And - after all - what's your problem if we can afford it???

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Would those three come, though? Answer = no

In Savio we are probably closest to a "almost world-class talent" as we possibly can get. And - after all - what's your problem if we can afford it???

Can we afford it
I’m not sure how
I don’t think he is close to being world class hence why city will sell him

 

[carl]

Can we afford it
I’m not sure how
I don’t think he is close to being world class hence why city will sell him

The same City that sold Palmer?

 

[Mrs Vert]

Most important unless he scores the goal that wins us the league or the CL. I’ve watched the highlights of the final hundreds of times and I’m still not convinced he actually got the final touch but it doesn’t matter

I don't think he touches it either! But who cares

 

[yiddo37]

Think he'll be very useful on the counter when we play the better sides, he has pace and is a good finisher

 

[Bullet]

Can we afford it
I’m not sure how

Because we finally got a secret cash injection from the owners

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Because we finally got a secret cash injection from the owners

That magic cash injection
Maybe it’s happened

 

[billyiddo]

Think he'll be very useful on the counter when we play the better sides, he has pace and is a good finisher

There's a trade-off there though wrt what he offers outside of that - vs the better sides you can't afford passengers in the starting XI. I think Johnson has a role to play but I'm not sure it's the role that you're describing

 

[Bullet]

Lineker used to do very little except score. Ditto Clive Allen. So it is not impossible that Spurs could carry Johnson as some main goal threat if others are doing other jobs e.g. if Solanke/Richarlison put in this huge effort to fight and hassle and get the ball up the pitch and progress the team forwards and then Johnson taps the ball in.

.......but yeah, it is frustrating watching Johnson be so massively ineffective; when a player finally offers him the ball, he just passes it straight back. Thus he stops getting it.

 

[braineclipse]

Lineker used to do very little except score. Ditto Clive Allen. So it is not impossible that Spurs could carry Johnson as some main goal threat if others are doing other jobs e.g. if Solanke/Richarlison put in this huge effort to fight and hassle and get the ball up the pitch and progress the team forwards and then Johnson taps the ball in.

.......but yeah, it is frustrating watching Johnson be so massively ineffective; when a player finally offers him the ball, he just passes it straight back. Thus he stops getting it.

Johnson seems to put in the work to me. Not strong in duels, but as you say others can compensate for that. Also on other qualities, particularly what Kudus brings. Part of the problem in recent seasons was that too many players had rather similar shortcomings. Son and Johnson were both rather ineffective unless set up running into space, with chances or at the very least facing the right way with space to exploit.


Another creative outlet or two would go a long way to "carry a goalscorer" that also works hard.

 

[Finney Is Back]

We need better.

His ability to sniff out chances is a valuable asset but nah we need better than this. We can't get away with carrying a player in the tougher matches that are to come.

I counted 3 occasions when he was on the shoulder of the last defender and needing a ball played in behind by Spence in order to likely either have a one on one with the keeper or chance to put one across the box for a potential chance for our CF or right winger. On each occasion Spence didn't spot the pass.

Part of the reason that we are 'carrying him' as you say is because we'd not playing balls in behind that he relishes. I think a better full back would've spotted those runs at the weekend.

 

[glorygloryeze]

I counted 3 occasions when he was on the shoulder of the last defender and needing a ball played in behind by Spence in order to likely either have a one on one with the keeper or chance to put one across the box for a potential chance for our CF or right winger. On each occasion Spence didn't spot the pass.

Part of the reason that we are 'carrying him' as you say is because we'd not playing balls in behind that he relishes. I think a better full back would've spotted those runs at the weekend.

This is an interesting point; do you think if Maddison is playing he plays those early balls?
I think we've missed a lot of that 'early release' pass since Eriksen (some may even say since Modric..)

Will Savinho or Eze help in that regard?

 

[Finney Is Back]

This is an interesting point; do you think if Maddison is playing he plays those early balls?
I think we've missed a lot of that 'early release' pass since Eriksen (some may even say since Modric..)

Will Savinho or Eze help in that regard?

It wasn't really our number 10 type player with the opportunity to play those balls, by the time Bergval got on the ball on Saturday Burnley had tended to get themselves deeper and closed that space off in behind. Interestingly enough though I did think that number 10 was our weakest position on Saturday with Bergval playing there but that's another story (and really due to a number 8 sized peg getting put in a number 10 sized hole). It was generally when Spence was on the ball that the chance was there for a ball in behind for Johnson.

 

[glorygloryeze]

It wasn't really our number 10 type player with the opportunity to play those balls, by the time Bergval got on the ball on Saturday Burnley had tended to get themselves deeper and closed that space off in behind. Interestingly enough though I did think that number 10 was our weakest position on Saturday with Bergval playing there but that's another story (and really due to a number 8 sized peg getting put in a number 10 sized hole). It was generally when Spence was on the ball that the chance was there for a ball in behind for Johnson.

Do you think Spence not being a left-footer was an issue here?