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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 64 34.4%

  • Out

    Votes: 122 65.6%
  • Total voters
    186
ricky2tricky4city said:
So you'll decide a managers future on 90/120 mins of football? Rightio.
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Winning the Europa League trophy is not just 90 to 120 minutes of football. You first have to get into the competition and you then have to get through to the final and then you have to do the last part and win it.... No other manager in ENICs tenure have managed to do that.
 
Lilbaz said:
Brilliant to win a trophy. But if we do it doesn't mean we shouldn't want to improve. Whether that is upgrading playing staff or coaching staff.
Yes i'd like an upgrade on ownership aswell.

For you would winning a trophy make you want enic to be our owners still?
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It would be a good start. Previously the head honcho has always seemed to prioritise revenue over glory.
 
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glorygloryeze said:
Were we a laughing stock when we sacked Juande Ramos?
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We would've been if we'd sacked him immediately after he landed the first trophy of ENIC's reign at the club.

We didn't do thatthough. We instead sold the team's two best players who contributed 70% of our goals and then sacked him 8 games into the following season after dealing him a terrible hand.
 
Finney Is Back said:
We would've been if we'd sacked him immediately after he landed the first trophy of ENIC's reign at the club.

We didn't do thatthough. We instead sold the team's two best players who contributed 70% of our goals and then sacked him 8 games into the following season after dealing him a terrible hand.
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I agree that Ramos had a bad hand. His two points from 8 games is maybe a direct result of that poor transfer window striker wise...but can Ange really have such an excuse for our poor form that stretches back well over a year now?

It's one thing being mid-table, it's a totally different thing having the worst league campaign in the last 50 years or so
 
Finney Is Back said:
Winning the Europa League trophy is not just 90 to 120 minutes of football. You first have to get into the competition and you then have to get through to the final and then you have to do the last part and win it.... No other manager in ENICs tenure have managed to do that.
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No other have managed to get us so low in the league table, no amount of poor transfer activity can justify that
 
glorygloryeze said:
I agree that Ramos had a bad hand. His two points from 8 games is maybe a direct result of that poor transfer window striker wise...but can Ange really have such an excuse for our poor form that stretches back well over a year now?

It's one thing being mid-table, it's a totally different thing having the worst league campaign in the last 50 years or so
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If we fail to win on Wednesday night then no he can't. If he wins on Wednesday night then where we finished mid-table or 17th doesn't matter a jot. The worst league campaign for 50 years would be made up for by the fact that we'd won our first European trophy for 41 years!
 
Finney Is Back said:
We would've been if we'd sacked him immediately after he landed the first trophy of ENIC's reign at the club.

We didn't do thatthough. We instead sold the team's two best players who contributed 70% of our goals and then sacked him 8 games into the following season after dealing him a terrible hand.
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We did bring in modric.
 
Finney Is Back said:
If we fail to win on Wednesday night then no he can't. If he wins on Wednesday night then where we finished mid-table or 17th doesn't matter a jot. The worst league campaign for 50 years would be made up for by the fact that we'd won our first European trophy for 41 years!
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A cup win would certainly compensate for such a poor season. But next season we will again have to juggle multiple competitions: what do you see from Ange's time here that says he won't have another stinker next season, and maybe even take us down (it's lucky this year that those who have gone down have been so historically bad)?
 
Finney Is Back said:
No other has managed to win us a European trophy so it's swings and roudabouts.

If Ange manages that he will go down in history... especially managing to do so under these owners!
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He would indeed go down in history, in both a positive and negative sense.
IF he does win the finall, the smart thing (for both sides) would be an amicable parting of ways, wishing each side all the best in the future
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Yes, but you'd sack him if he failed in that last game?

Make your mind up.
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Yes I would, because he would've failed to get over the line despite prioritising that one thing. My mind already has been made up. I would keep him if he wins the competition because he would've done something that other managers under ENIC have not been able to do. Sack him if he doesn't win it because he wouldn't have done so.
 
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