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Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
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Jimmy McCormick
Re: Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas
Some 'kings' are far more temporary than others, all men are mortal but are you seriously trying to tell me there is no difference between a 'king' who is the ruler of a country for the entirety of his life past coronation and the employee of a club who has no long term ties?
Feel free to look down on me if you want, however you just need to look at football managers to know that they will often do things for themselves rather than the team they manage.
One person wielding decisions is the most effective when that one person will do the right thing. However more often then not, they do the best thing for themselves rather than the best thing for their 'people'.
Am slightly disappointed really. I thought you'd come up with the 'king' idea yourself. "Standing on the shoulders of giants" i guess.
Some 'kings' are far more temporary than others, all men are mortal but are you seriously trying to tell me there is no difference between a 'king' who is the ruler of a country for the entirety of his life past coronation and the employee of a club who has no long term ties?
Feel free to look down on me if you want, however you just need to look at football managers to know that they will often do things for themselves rather than the team they manage.
One person wielding decisions is the most effective when that one person will do the right thing. However more often then not, they do the best thing for themselves rather than the best thing for their 'people'.
Am slightly disappointed really. I thought you'd come up with the 'king' idea yourself. "Standing on the shoulders of giants" i guess.
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Steven Caulker
Re: Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas
Do you have a ladder to help you down from that obscenely high horse, your majesty?
Do you have a ladder to help you down from that obscenely high horse, your majesty?
Re: Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas
Agreed, what you say is socialism at its best, muddy the waters.
Agreed, what you say is socialism at its best, muddy the waters.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Re: Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas
That's some categorical statement. Can I safely assume you can back this up with evidence considering your classical philosophical education?
That's some categorical statement. Can I safely assume you can back this up with evidence considering your classical philosophical education?
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Re: Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas
Our last 5 non caretaker managers have lasted an average of just over 2 seasons. And you want to give them full power over transfers?
I couldn't care less what Homer wrote a few thousand years ago, it has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to 21st century football.
Now that Ferguson has left Man Utd and Moyes Everton, I suspect Wenger is the only top flight manager of a club of any significance who has near total control of transfers. And in the age where managers tend to last 2 or 3 seasons at best, having a long term vision with transfers means a lot less upheaval and a lot less pointless money spent.
It works in the rest of Europe, I'm not really sure I understand the resistance to it here.
Our last 5 non caretaker managers have lasted an average of just over 2 seasons. And you want to give them full power over transfers?
I couldn't care less what Homer wrote a few thousand years ago, it has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to 21st century football.
Now that Ferguson has left Man Utd and Moyes Everton, I suspect Wenger is the only top flight manager of a club of any significance who has near total control of transfers. And in the age where managers tend to last 2 or 3 seasons at best, having a long term vision with transfers means a lot less upheaval and a lot less pointless money spent.
It works in the rest of Europe, I'm not really sure I understand the resistance to it here.
Hully
Tony Parks
Re: Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas
I'd prefer some stability at the club. We seem to be moving towards a European model where the head coach's position is almost temporary. Usually because they fail to deliver with the players that are bought for them.
Jose Mourinho was the longest serving manager in the top Spanish league at 3.5 years, when he left Madrid, that's nuts.
Call me old fashioned but I prefer the manager to be top dog. I want him to be the one that builds the side and takes responsibility. There's a danger that won't happen and we'll become unstable.
I'd prefer some stability at the club. We seem to be moving towards a European model where the head coach's position is almost temporary. Usually because they fail to deliver with the players that are bought for them.
Jose Mourinho was the longest serving manager in the top Spanish league at 3.5 years, when he left Madrid, that's nuts.
Call me old fashioned but I prefer the manager to be top dog. I want him to be the one that builds the side and takes responsibility. There's a danger that won't happen and we'll become unstable.
Raoul Duke
Gordon Durie
Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
AVB to quit football in the next five to ten years to compete in the Dakar Rally
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-manager-andre-villas-boas-claims-2010008
AVB to quit football in the next five to ten years to compete in the Dakar Rally
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-manager-andre-villas-boas-claims-2010008
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Jermaine Jenas
Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
I guess this is why you shouldn't enter football management as early as AVB did. He became a manager at 32 and now plans to retire at 40-45 when most people in football would just enter management. It will be a pity if he does retire at 40 as he can become a very successfull manager if he continues beyond that.
I guess this is why you shouldn't enter football management as early as AVB did. He became a manager at 32 and now plans to retire at 40-45 when most people in football would just enter management. It will be a pity if he does retire at 40 as he can become a very successfull manager if he continues beyond that.
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
The managers under Levy have lasted an average of 2 years (excluding all the caretaker roles, which if you do, places the average closer to a manager a year).
I'm sure he'll be fine.
The managers under Levy have lasted an average of 2 years (excluding all the caretaker roles, which if you do, places the average closer to a manager a year).
I'm sure he'll be fine.
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
That plan is Franco Baldini and Tim Sherwood to name two. I think Baldini is set as the heartbeat of the club's playing operations, and I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that if/when AVB decides to take something else on, Baldini will have identified (quite possibly with AVB's help) the next move. I genuinely believe we are about to witness an explosion in our fortunes (positive explosion that is)...
That plan is Franco Baldini and Tim Sherwood to name two. I think Baldini is set as the heartbeat of the club's playing operations, and I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that if/when AVB decides to take something else on, Baldini will have identified (quite possibly with AVB's help) the next move. I genuinely believe we are about to witness an explosion in our fortunes (positive explosion that is)...
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Ronnie Rosenthal
Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
Agree 100%
The plan began in the summer of 2004, it was about creating a structure that always delivered, where there wasn't a huge reliance on the manager and we developed young players either through our academy or recruitment, something identified after selling/releasing 15 players all of which we made a loss on during that summer of 04.
I think now that we have a Technical Director in Baldini I feel that there could be an end to the last minute deadline day dramas that we've recently become accustomed to, as a result of this Levy can now put the energy he needs into the stadium whilst Sherwood focuses on our Academy, Baldini our recruitment and AVB the team.
Agree 100%
The plan began in the summer of 2004, it was about creating a structure that always delivered, where there wasn't a huge reliance on the manager and we developed young players either through our academy or recruitment, something identified after selling/releasing 15 players all of which we made a loss on during that summer of 04.
I think now that we have a Technical Director in Baldini I feel that there could be an end to the last minute deadline day dramas that we've recently become accustomed to, as a result of this Levy can now put the energy he needs into the stadium whilst Sherwood focuses on our Academy, Baldini our recruitment and AVB the team.
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Neil Ruddock
Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
I think the only deadline day deals from now on will be in the VDV mould. If we can get a massive bargain that fits what we need.
I think the only deadline day deals from now on will be in the VDV mould. If we can get a massive bargain that fits what we need.
metalgear
Nayim
Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
we built the academy first, then the stadium - that's our gameplan. no disrespect to redknapp but he was never going to be a long term solution.
we built the academy first, then the stadium - that's our gameplan. no disrespect to redknapp but he was never going to be a long term solution.
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indianspur
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Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
you maybe right but Baldini is an independent professional, im sure he will do a good job whilst with us but who knows what would happen if a bigger club with more money comes along. Weve already been bitten by Arnesen
the only reliable aspect about our football structure is Levy, and then Sherwood i guess.
you maybe right but Baldini is an independent professional, im sure he will do a good job whilst with us but who knows what would happen if a bigger club with more money comes along. Weve already been bitten by Arnesen
the only reliable aspect about our football structure is Levy, and then Sherwood i guess.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Re: AVB - Making Tottenham His Own
The thing that does worry me slightly with the whole technical director structure is we have seen that they can get poached just as easily as managers can, or turn out to be crap like Commoli. I do think we've gotten a genuinely quality set up with Baldini as Technical Director (although he has moved jobs pretty frequently in the last few years, what's to say he won't again and put us back to square one?) and AVB as manager, and I just hope it lasts. If it does, I can see us establish ourselves as title challengers.
The thing that does worry me slightly with the whole technical director structure is we have seen that they can get poached just as easily as managers can, or turn out to be crap like Commoli. I do think we've gotten a genuinely quality set up with Baldini as Technical Director (although he has moved jobs pretty frequently in the last few years, what's to say he won't again and put us back to square one?) and AVB as manager, and I just hope it lasts. If it does, I can see us establish ourselves as title challengers.