American politics

[Lost Mango]

Yep gabbard said so herself. yesterday she changed her tune. I guess Donald had word

Always a bit cautious about what Gabbard says. She is even deeper into Putin's orifaces than Trump and so could have been transmitting the Kremlin line in order to protect Iran.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Bit harsh to say Egyptians, Babylonians and Romans persecuted the Jews specifically. They were just another conquered people to them and were treated no differently to other subjagated communities (which at times made them the specific spacegoat and at other times meant other communities felt the wrath)

The Christians on the other hand .......

Probably important to say this again. Disliking Israel for being evil has nothing to do with which GHod they believe in. It'd because they are evil and do many many evil things.

 

[Baleforce]

Just want to say @Baleforce that it's always nice to have a convo with someone as polite as you. Regardless of our differences it's good to discuss pal.

You too mate

 

[Baleforce]

Bit harsh to say Egyptians, Babylonians and Romans persecuted the Jews specifically. They were just another conquered people to them and were treated no differently to other subjagated communities (which at times made them the specific spacegoat and at other times meant other communities felt the wrath)

The Christians on the other hand .......

I wasn’t there, it’s not first hand experience.

There has been a lot published on persecution of the Jewish race, they are notable groups in the timeline that are often referenced.

 

[Lost Mango]

I wasn’t there, it’s not first hand experience.

There has been a lot published on persecution of the Jewish race, they are notable groups in the timeline that are often referenced.

By the timelines referenced I assume you mean the Bible?

They have a 'better' written history than many other tribes that were enslaved or deported etc (but what can be deciphered from other non-jewish sources suggests that they were just one 'other' people out of many) in pre-literate times but we know that in Roman times they were treated the same as many other peoples.

 

[Lost Mango]

@Silly McSilly Face

So given there was no immediate credible threat to the USA, can we agree that under usual international standards them bombing a soverign country with no provocation is illegal? Even if they were doing it on behalf of their puppet regime?

 

[monkeybarry]

@Silly McSilly Face

So given there was no immediate credible threat to the USA, can we agree that under usual international standards them bombing a soverign country with no provocation is illegal? Even if they were doing it on behalf of their puppet regime?

I think the justification would come down to stretched definitions of "imminent" and "threat"

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

@Silly McSilly Face

So given there was no immediate credible threat to the USA, can we agree that under usual international standards them bombing a soverign country with no provocation is illegal? Even if they were doing it on behalf of their puppet regime?

How do you know there was no immediate credible threat? Credible intelligence and evidence that there was an immediate credible threat would likely come from a compromise within the Iranian regime and continued intelligence from that source/those sources and the safety of that/those sources will need to be protected by not releasing said intelligence/evidence outside of extremely closed inner circle. And in fact, likely to be protected further by briefing lower ranking western politicians and the media that there is no credible immediate threat similarly to how the US moved large volumes of equipment and aircraft to the west coast in the run up to launching the attack from the east coast......you and we will never know whether there was actually credible intelligence/evidence of an imminent nuclear threat.