Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Could be them wearing blades instead of studs? The photo of Odobert there looks like his boot has got stuck in the turf when it should have slipped away a bit
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25/26 Injury and illness thread
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Could be them wearing blades instead of studs? The photo of Odobert there looks like his boot has got stuck in the turf when it should have slipped away a bit
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
There is the same issue elsewhere. There's been 20 years academic research on how bad they are. Ferguson called for them to be banned back in 2005 because the number of ACLs they were causing
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Bullet
Jimmy Cantrell
He said "Prolonged exposure to hard playing surfaces" i.e. the training ground being too firm, seems the most likely source of the problems.
ricky2tricky4city
Barry Daines
Can someone do a list of all our injured players and their expected return dates?
......so we can feed it into the....'how far are we in the brick' machine. Thanks in advance...I'm hitting the hay. Sweet dreams Thomas.
......so we can feed it into the....'how far are we in the brick' machine. Thanks in advance...I'm hitting the hay. Sweet dreams Thomas.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Everyone bar Tel and Gray. Pre-season.
Mulletperm
Jermaine Jenas
Would be interesting to see how many of our injuries have occurred while playing at our place rather than away.
thfcsteff
Ralph Coates
The training ground pitches were in excellent shape last I knew.
Robbo
Jack Jull
Opposition players spend 90 minutes on that surface, though - ours train and play there regularly. It's the only correlation I can think of. The number of ACL injuries we suffer, compared to everyone else, is such an anamoly there has to be an underlying factor. Not to mention all the other injuries. Something's not right (and it's not a curse, although I do wonder sometimes).
I did ask and was answered a bit further back - its only a couple at home.
Bullet
Jimmy Cantrell
That's what I mean, that could be the problem. The pitches are so perfect and hard wearing and immune from wear and tear; I suspect a training ground should be a little softer so that the joints and ligaments are getting a slightly cushioned impact on every stride during training, rather than prolonged hard impacts.
We have 17 pitches or whatever, so if a pitch is a bit softer and cuts up a bit we can rotate round the other pitches easily while it recovers.
thfcsteff
Ralph Coates
I have been on both them and the stadium pitch. I don't think the training ground pitches are an issue, albeit I appreciate the point you're looking to raise. Last time I went (and it has been about a year or so) the stadium and training pitches were calibrated to perform the same way. I think far closer to the issue is a continually not-amazing medical and the lack of trust. I think several players take second opinions at this point.
Robbo
Jack Jull
The medical team is the other factor that could have had an impact on us having more ACL injuries than all the other PL teams combined, I guess.
My uninformed guess is it's because of a combination of inept medical staff, hard pitches, an intense playing style (last two seasons) and a generally big workload on players.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Maybe the other injuries, but not the ACLs. ACLs arent caused by anything long term. They are when your studs get caught in the turf or when you land badly from an aerial challenge. The only contributing factors (apart from bad luck) will be stud choices and maybe the plastic netting interwoven in the pitch
Robbo
Jack Jull
I think it's foolish to disregard it completely, and I certainly hope the club doesn't.
I've tried to read up, and found research that indicates that high training volume and insufficient recovery, combined with hard surfaces, can increase the risk of ACL injuries. The hardness of the pitch will also affect how players move and land in situations that are linked to ACL injuries, according to another study.
I'll happily hold my hand up and say that this could be a nonsense theory, but there's got to be more to it than just a coincidence that we have had so many ACL injuries compared to other clubs who play in the same competitions as we do.