iPhone 5 - to be announced today

[tommysvr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf5-Prx19ZM&sns=em

I have literally never thought to myself "if only I could send a playlist to a friend from my phone"...or wanted to watch a video whilst sending an email.

It's probably a good phone, it's just a brick ad.

 

[Golfball]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf5-Prx19ZM&sns=em

I have literally never thought to myself "if only I could send a playlist to a friend from my phone"...or wanted to watch a video whilst sending an email.

It's probably a good phone, it's just a brick ad.

It is a good phone. Just not as good as the iPhone. I have access to any phone and my company pay for the phone and contract that I choose. Naturally with no cost consideration, I try out a few and then pick the best one.

There are plenty of brick/pointless features on HTC, samsung and blackberry phones that dont get the ridicule that apple do. I would have thought with Apple dominating so much, that the onus is on these companies to advance technology and pull people away from apple.

 

[COYS]

Just not as good as the iPhone.

Please justify this bold statement. Whenever I ask an iPhone user to do so they can never answer well, but it seems you may be able to so please do.

 

[Golfball]

Please justify this bold statement. Whenever I ask an iPhone user to do so they can never answer well, but it seems you may be able to so please do.

For me, the iPhone looks and feels like a much better phone. Most phones feel cheap in comparison. The main thing I prefer is the usability of the iphone, it is quick and easy to use. I'm not a massive fan of android, my HTC android phone just constantly crashes. I tend to find the iphone a lot more reliable and quite like itunes. I could go into loads of detail comparing every spec, but I've used both and just prefer using the iphone - and thats what it should come down to for most people, the usability - which layout you prefer and which you find easiest to use. I really dont care about stuff such as Samsung coming along and claiming the battery lasts 20 million hours longer, luckily for me I have a house with electricity so I can just charge my phone up. I tend to find the people that dont like apple list technical specs (of other phones) that they really dont have a clue about and it really doesnt make much difference. I remember a Nokia phone I had to trial a few years ago (over 7 years ago i think), it was technically better than anything around but it was just awful to use, it had to go through a lot of changes before anyone would sell it.

For those talking about broken screens, I just watched a youtube vid of them dropping the iphone 3 times from 3 different heights and all it had was a few scuffs (the samsung was smashed up doing the same test).

 

[papaspur]

For those talking about broken screens, I just watched a youtube vid of them dropping the iphone 3 times from 3 different heights and all it had was a few scuffs (the samsung was smashed up doing the same test).

That was hardly an objective test. Needless to say, I can only hope my phone comes away looking as good as his after 3 drops.

I did notice Siri had some problem parsing my speech when it came to BPL teams. And all the time, it somehow made everything filthy. Stop calling me perverted, Siri. You're the perverted one.

 

[Seedy Ron]

the battery lasts 20 million hours longer

That's a hell of a battery, in fairness.

 

[SpursLodge]

That was hardly an objective test. Needless to say, I can only hope my phone comes away looking as good as his after 3 drops.

I did notice Siri had some problem parsing my speech when it came to BPL teams. And all the time, it somehow made everything filthy. Stop calling me perverted, Siri. You're the perverted one.

Why was it not an objective test? Assuming we're talking about the same video it seemed like a decent test to me. obviously it was a small data set of one phone each but other than that it seemed a fair comparison to me.

 

[COYS]

For me, the iPhone looks and feels like a much better phone. Most phones feel cheap in comparison. The main thing I prefer is the usability of the iphone, it is quick and easy to use. I'm not a massive fan of android, my HTC android phone just constantly crashes. I tend to find the iphone a lot more reliable and quite like itunes. I could go into loads of detail comparing every spec, but I've used both and just prefer using the iphone - and thats what it should come down to for most people, the usability - which layout you prefer and which you find easiest to use. I really dont care about stuff such as Samsung coming along and claiming the battery lasts 20 million hours longer, luckily for me I have a house with electricity so I can just charge my phone up. I tend to find the people that dont like apple list technical specs (of other phones) that they really dont have a clue about and it really doesnt make much difference. I remember a Nokia phone I had to trial a few years ago (over 7 years ago i think), it was technically better than anything around but it was just awful to use, it had to go through a lot of changes before anyone would sell it.

For those talking about broken screens, I just watched a youtube vid of them dropping the iphone 3 times from 3 different heights and all it had was a few scuffs (the samsung was smashed up doing the same test).

With my past experiences with iPhones and even my own iPod Touch, the Android has had a much more personal and customisable UI, and is much nicer to use. Also the fact it's open source just feels so much more like the phone was built for me, and that everyone has the right to make it better, rather than just one profit-hungry company.

That being said, when I had a Motorola Dext, that was a brick, slow phone, though that phone was stuck on Android 1.5. Jelly Bean, as you may well know, has this new project from Google called 'Project Butter' where they're basically making Androids fast, smooth and slick.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Jesus, this thread still going?

Have to say, not impressed with ios 6.

 

[COYS]

Jesus, this thread still going?

Have to say, not impressed with ios 6.

Passbook has some potential (though I don't see why I can't just get my plane ticket on my airline's app), and I like the improved Siri (gives some good competition to S voice, will be interesting to see if Samsung better that) but the new maps is a joke.

 

[WookieD]

With my past experiences with iPhones and even my own iPod Touch, the Android has had a much more personal and customisable UI, and is much nicer to use. Also the fact it's open source just feels so much more like the phone was built for me, and that everyone has the right to make it better, rather than just one profit-hungry company.

That being said, when I had a Motorola Dext, that was a brick, slow phone, though that phone was stuck on Android 1.5. Jelly Bean, as you may well know, has this new project from Google called 'Project Butter' where they're basically making Androids fast, smooth and slick.

I think the thing with Android is, as it is designed (or not) to run on so many varied pieces of hardware, it often NEEDS the little bits of tweeking to actually make it work properly unless you are using one of the Android flagship devices. So it has to be open source, how many devices work better on a CM version of Android as oppossed to the vanilla for instance?

I think Golfball hs nailed it though. It IS all about personal preference. I personally cannot be bothered with customising my phone. It is a thing, to be used until it breaks, and then I buy a new thing. I feel no connection to it, it gives me no pride of ownership and I do not feel any need to spend time making alterations to it.

When I got my first 3G I did as I was interested and jailbreaking the iPhone was fun. Androids live wallpapers are about the only customisation I find interesting now. I have absolutely no interest in linking my phones capabilities in with any social networking apps or sites, I don't use it as a developer, it is just a thing that I use to call people, take photos when I don't have my SLR, write emails, surf when I don't have a tab or laptop to hand, watch TV/Films, listen to music and to read a bit of news... IMO pretty much Android and iOS will allow you to do all of those to similar levels, so it just comes down to which I like and I like the iPhone better. Simple as that really, I just prefer the GUI on iOS and the handset is pretty solid. Got a 4G not far off coming up to it's 24 months and, having used a bumper on it the whole time, it is still in perfect nick.

 

[Heisenburg]

Snap, its a phone, find one you like and get it. Why go on about how much better it is than someone else's ffs! I love my Galaxy Note and the fact it bricks all over the iphone isn't something I rub in peoples faces I just grin smugly and walk away.

 

[COYS]

I think the thing with Android is, as it is designed (or not) to run on so many varied pieces of hardware, it often NEEDS the little bits of tweeking to actually make it work properly unless you are using one of the Android flagship devices. So it has to be open source, how many devices work better on a CM version of Android as oppossed to the vanilla for instance?

I think Golfball hs nailed it though. It IS all about personal preference. I personally cannot be bothered with customising my phone. It is a thing, to be used until it breaks, and then I buy a new thing. I feel no connection to it, it gives me no pride of ownership and I do not feel any need to spend time making alterations to it.

When I got my first 3G I did as I was interested and jailbreaking the iPhone was fun. Androids live wallpapers are about the only customisation I find interesting now. I have absolutely no interest in linking my phones capabilities in with any social networking apps or sites, I don't use it as a developer, it is just a thing that I use to call people, take photos when I don't have my SLR, write emails, surf when I don't have a tab or laptop to hand, watch TV/Films, listen to music and to read a bit of news... IMO pretty much Android and iOS will allow you to do all of those to similar levels, so it just comes down to which I like and I like the iPhone better. Simple as that really, I just prefer the GUI on iOS and the handset is pretty solid. Got a 4G not far off coming up to it's 24 months and, having used a bumper on it the whole time, it is still in perfect nick.

I don't mean rooting or any of that kind of customisation. I just meant with the widgets on my home screens and live wallpapers it's more personal.

If you think that the iPhone and Android do near-enough the same thing then it comes down to cost. The Galaxy S III is about £15 a month cheaper than the iPhone on contract (obviously depending on many different factors), which is an overall saving of £360.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Passbook has some potential (though I don't see why I can't just get my plane ticket on my airline's app), and I like the improved Siri (gives some good competition to S voice, will be interesting to see if Samsung better that) but the new maps is a joke.

Yep, google maps was much better. Apple dropped a gonad* there.

I just find ios 6 quite slow when it comes to the loading of apps compared to the previous system.

 

[COYS]

Yep, google maps was much better. Apple dropped a gonad* there.

I just find ios 6 quite slow when it comes to the loading of apps compared to the previous system.

That happens.

When my now 18 month old phone updated to Jelly Bean at first it was a lot slower, but now it's about the same as it was before, but Jelly Bean has definitely destroyed my battery.

New firmware is always made to deal with new hardware and unfortunately after about a year or so, it just can't handle it as well any more.

 

[WookieD]

I don't mean rooting or any of that kind of customisation. I just meant with the widgets on my home screens and live wallpapers it's more personal.

If you think that the iPhone and Android do near-enough the same thing then it comes down to cost. The Galaxy S III is about £15 a month cheaper than the iPhone on contract (obviously depending on many different factors), which is an overall saving of £360.

And I was talking about widgets et all as well as rooting, SSH etc. Widgets are completely superfluous imo, even on a bigger device like a tablet, it's the illusion of choice.

As for price, if price is a factor for you then it is a factor for you. People buy within their means, the iPhone is within my means so I'm not interested in the price of the Galaxy as I want the iPhone as I prefer the OS. If I preferred Android, then I would buy a Samsung device probably as I'm a bit of a Samsung fanboy where their TVs are concerned... Not least because you get a free Galaxy tab II with their new TVs atm

 

[WookieD]

Yep, google maps was much better. Apple dropped a gonad* there.

I just find ios 6 quite slow when it comes to the loading of apps compared to the previous system.

The Tom Tom maps are rubbish, I commented about it a page or so ago.... road names take precendent over absolutely everything else. I couldn't find one of my local restaurants under any search term I could think of and they don't have any businesses listed on the map... but nice clicky links to the local woods?! WTF use is that? It doesn't give me any confidence for when I actually need to use it.

 

[COYS]

And I was talking about widgets et all as well as rooting, SSH etc. Widgets are completely superfluous imo, even on a bigger device like a tablet, it's the illusion of choice.

As for price, if price is a factor for you then it is a factor for you. People buy within their means, the iPhone is within my means so I'm not interested in the price of the Galaxy as I want the iPhone as I prefer the OS. If I preferred Android, then I would buy a Samsung device probably as I'm a bit of a Samsung fanboy where their TVs are concerned... Not least because you get a free Galaxy tab II with their new TVs atm

I really like widgets. I can see latest tweets without clicking on Twitter. It means you can check your messages without clicking messages. I can turn WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS on and off without going on settings.

For me price unfortunately is a factor as it's my dad who pays my phone bill (as someone was quick to point out earlier, I am still quite young), and I can't go overboard on spending. That being said, I am actually allowed an iPhone, and my sister was even offered one on Saturday. I personally prefer Android, feel it can do everything the iPhone can and more, and I feel Apple have let their fans down quite a bit this time.

 

[P.D.]

Check out windows phone, flagship phones are much cheap and its as slick as any other phone OS I've seen.

 

[WookieD]

and I feel Apple have let their fans down quite a bit this time.

This I agree with. There are some features coming through that I really want to see on an iPhone. For one thing, I love the Samsung Galaxy Beam projecter. What a brilliant idea. I would actually use this all the time, being able to walk into a room and stick a presentation onto the wall without so much as a cable would be excellent. I also like the idea of a projected keyboard, that will be pretty neat.