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Next Manager?

Junior19 said:
Never go back, I know, I know.. but oh...

It is like that one ex, the one you never seem to quite get over, and you keep thinking, "what if..." and "just one last try!"
And you keep thinking about all the crap rom-com-movies with happy endings she made you watch. And before you know it, you think "it could happen.. it SHOULD happen!"

And then reality kicks you in the teeth, and it all ends in tears. Again!

But not this time! Oh no!! Surely not this time... (?)
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...and the amazing make up sex.
 
Mr Gogolak said:
It's almost impossible to compare two managers so I can't answer that question. I don't keep a ranking of my former girlfriends either. Now, are there interesting options out there? Definitely. Whether we can (or want to) bring them in is another matter entirely but without even trying too hard, I can think of a dozen managers I'd rather see appointed before a the man we sacked two years ago.

Again, I don't think anyone questions the fact that he's been our most successful manager of the Premier League era. He's done some great things here but, really, I don't get the nostalgia and I admit it goes way beyond football. Life's about moving forward, not backwards! I have no interest in meeting people I attended school or college with. In any case, it really reads like, to some people, the man's bigger than the club.

I'll wish him the best if he's reappointed but going back for him doesn't strike me as something a big, forward-thinking club would do.
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Today is as excited as I've been since we sacked Jose. I get the arguments against Poch and I don't really believe it will happen but...

It's not about trophies. Graham won a trophy that means little to me. Ramos...it means a bit more but not much. Even Venables...I loved the 91 Cup win but we were very, very flaky for most of his reign. What Poch did in his 5 years here was incredible. He brought the club together. He made me feel proud to be a Spurs fan. Suddenly, we were serious players and getting respect after years of being a joke. We were great to watch. After AVB and Tactics Tim's bunch of mercenary misfits, Poch brought through a young hungry team we could love and get behind. They played a great brand of football and most weeks, you knew we'd win. Even against the big teams, you knew we'd compete and had as much chance of winning as them. I loved Jol and I lovedHarry's reign but we usually got thumped by the big teams under them with a few exceptions. Poch had us challenging for the league, he got us to a CL final. I grew up thinking I'd never ever see Spurs in the CL. To see us competing with Madrid and Barcelona and then getting to the final...my happiest time as a Spurs fan. To do it in the circumstances he did, 4 years in a row...worth much more than an FA Cup or League Cup.

Maybe you should never go back. I got annoyed at Poch towards the end. More annoyed than I should have in hindsight. But I always said he deserved the end of that season to turn it around. He'd earned it.

If he wants to come back, as far as I'm concerned, he's earned that right.
 
I love the man, and want him back at some point, but I'm not sure what is any different from the last 12 months under his reign. The CL run masked how poor we were in the league, the famous diamond formation and our squad is weaker than it was when we were struggling when he left. No Dembele, Eriksen, Jan possibly no Kane or Aurier, and Winks, Sissoko and Dier in the first team.

The feel good factor of bringing him back just seems like another get out of jail free card for the squad and Levy. A completely new man can come with a list of 10 players to get rid off.
 
Mr Gogolak said:
I've said it before but this cult-like meteorology around Pochettino is something I can't get my head around. I guess it goes beyond football. I've never believed in saviours and messiahs, and I've always known that even the greatest artists have flaws. Sometimes, it feels like there's only one man on planet football who can managed this club (a club that will certainly be renamed Pochettino Hotspur at some point). I admit I find that... disturbing, even more so when you consider he's won a grand total of zero trophies.
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I believe PSG won the French Cup a week ago so he's got that monkey off of his back.
 
Baleforce said:
Well if we are happy to reappoint youngish, good looking, former managers that have a defined style, but one who has also won trophies and not currently in a job, I can think of someone...
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I've finally found out the reason why you think he is good, which has always puzzled me as you seem an educated chap.... It's because you fancy him isn't it?... It's a bit like me thinking Danni Minogue is a good singer!
 
balesleftboot said:
Tottenham 2015-2017 was the best Spurs side I've ever seen in my 31 years of support As long as he was able to rebuild the squad I'd be all for him coming back.
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Thats a fair point. If he isnt going to have money to spend, perhaps better to look elsewhere this time? Would Poch get frustrated to come back to the same financial situation and net-zero transfer windows?
 
Mr Gogolak said:
I've said it before but this cult-like meteorology around Pochettino is something I can't get my head around. I guess it goes beyond football. I've never believed in saviours and messiahs, and I've always known that even the greatest artists have flaws. Sometimes, it feels like there's only one man on planet football who can managed this club (a club that will certainly be renamed Pochettino Hotspur at some point). I admit I find that... disturbing, even more so when you consider he's won a grand total of zero trophies.
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- Attractive football
- Develops players
- High profile for attracting players
- Immensely popular with fans
- Immensely popular with players
- Proven success within structure and constraints such as ours

No one else on the short-lists ticks even half those boxes.

I would definitely though like to see him work alongside Rangnack or another DoF, as transfers seemed an aspect of the job that he was never interested/would ideally delegate. That would maybe help with the emotional side of moving on players too (if it wasn't primarily up to him).
 
Gutter Boy said:
- Attractive football
- Develops players
- High profile for attracting players
- Immensely popular with fans
- Immensely popular with players
- Proven success within structure and constraints such as ours

No one else on the short-lists ticks even half those boxes.

I would definitely though like to see him work alongside Rangnack or another DoF, as transfers seemed an aspect of the job that he was never interested/would ideally delegate. That would maybe help with the emotional side of moving on players too (if it wasn't primarily up to him).
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Indeed.... Poch with an excellent DoF and Levy having learned from his mistakes and not cheaping out on him could be the golden ticket....
 
AdamB said:
Thats a fair point. If he isnt going to have money to spend, perhaps better to look elsewhere this time? Would Poch get frustrated to come back to the same financial situation and net-zero transfer windows?
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I think it was fairly obvious that Poch had become somewhat frustrated a while before his sacking. Something would have to change in order for it to work.
 
Gutter Boy said:
- Attractive football
- Develops players
- High profile for attracting players
- Immensely popular with fans
- Immensely popular with players
- Proven success within structure and constraints such as ours

No one else on the short-lists ticks even half those boxes.

I would definitely though like to see him work alongside Rangnack or another DoF, as transfers seemed an aspect of the job that he was never interested/would ideally delegate. That would maybe help with the emotional side of moving on players too (if it wasn't primarily up to him).
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No one else ticks even half those boxes? Ten Hag literally ticks all of those except for possibly high profile for attracting players - but I don’t think Poch was at Spurs either, we recruited talented players but didn’t attract superstars and I don’t think it would be any worse/different under Ten Hag either.....
 
He was unlucky with the timing of things first time round. Unbeaten at home 2016/2017 then we move to Wembley and no longer have the Fortress or a home. Then there was the timing of some players having their heads turned. Maybe it was after 2 years of giving absolutely everything but winning nothing, whilst seeing less talented players earning twice as much at the likes of the Manchester clubs but we had both Rose and Walker( who were important parts of the way we played) saying they wanted to leave. It's kind of funny to think of the Rose interview where he was basically saying that he would leave us for a City or a Chelsea. Now we can't even flog him to Saudi Sportswashing Machine!
 
So, after Sunday's did anyone who wanted Rodgers as our next manager change their mind?
Or did any who wanted him, still want him?

Curious to hear people's thoughts on this (and apologies if it's already been discussed above...!)
 
glorygloryeze said:
So, after Sunday's did anyone who wanted Rodgers as our next manager change their mind?
Or did any who wanted him, still want him?

Curious to hear people's thoughts on this (and apologies if it's already been discussed above...!)
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1 game doesn’t tell the tale though does it? He had Leicester finishing above where they should and won an F.A cup while using young players and playing good football.
 
balesleftboot said:
He was unlucky with the timing of things first time round. Unbeaten at home 2016/2017 then we move to Wembley and no longer have the Fortress or a home. Then there was the timing of some players having their heads turned. Maybe it was after 2 years of giving absolutely everything but winning nothing, whilst seeing less talented players earning twice as much at the likes of the Manchester clubs but we had both Rose and Walker( who were important parts of the way we played) saying they wanted to leave. It's kind of funny to think of the Rose interview where he was basically saying that he would leave us for a City or a Chelsea. Now we can't even flog him to Saudi Sportswashing Machine!
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Milan are going to phone any minute now...
 
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