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Redknapp

put all that aside, he didn't cope well with the pressures and rigours of the premier league, i felt a lot of the time he was lacking answers and looked confused... if he got off to a shaky start, our fans would absolutely HOUND him, look at how they treat redknapp and he's delivered us champions league football recently and a top for finish this season.. 'fans' still call him a saggy faced bent c*nt.

on pure evidence, redknapp is the far superior premier league manager, so why the hell would people want a chelsea flop taking charge here? it beggars belief, it really does.
 
I can see all the pro's and con's for AVB, but this is still the same man who thought it'd be a wise move to play John Terry in a high defensive line. Big mistake.
 
African,

That's rubbish.

I think you're guilty of seeing this debate in black and white with no contrast at all.

Simple question; does the man have any faults in your eyes? Let's just start there.

And again, as I've said before, I just want resolution.
I'm getting tired of it all.
Levy is u happy, however Levy might well be forced to stick in this situation, and if he is, then Harry Redknapp will get my full support for the coming season as I am a supporter of the club more than any single opinion I may, or may not, hold. I will endeavor to wipe the slate clean in my memory of the slump last season, and will judge him on what he DOES not what he DID...what I am hopefully would also happen, in such a situation, is that the manager has learnt from his mistakes.

Now, what say you?

Does he have any faults? yes he does

the only mistake i think he made is not focusing his attentions on the team when the england job came along

As for the rest, thats the best one can hope a response to be

good post overall.

the irony is, i'm not that fussed either way if he goes. we have a good manager now and i dont think relleasing him for the sake of it, or for the sake of two months or for wanting the england job which he told us he wanted etc etc etc......is wise
 
Have we made gutter/wriggly/Leeds day yet with Carlos kickaballs appointed manager yet or is Redknapp still here???
 
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Mick, how long have you been in Bermuda? Im quite certain Woy is on a (PR) tightrope as we speak. Expectancy might be low now but by next week it will be through the roof. The England hype machine (propelled by the tabloids) will have everyone (the idiot masses) convinced we will win and anything less is failure before you know it. Same story as with every other tournament the last decade or so.

Its not right, Ill agree with you there for sure, but it WILL happen, I can assure you.

DMac is posting a lot of opinion as fact, most of it in accurate IMO, but on this I think he is pretty well spot on.

If Woy were to go prematurely (say within the next year) Harry will again be installed as favourite and will gaain want the job (dont blame him for that) which could again impact our season.

if we're right be believe the received wisdom that Harry was irate at not being offered the job, would he really be so keen to take it after having been overlooked so publicly. and there's still the Brooking situation.

look at the flak Nice Guy Roy is already getting over his squad selection. he's one of the most respected names in football yet they're already gunning for him.

for all the notion that Harry has the press in his pocket, let's not be naive - there'll be plenty with an axe to grind should he get in and f*** up.

maybe i'm simple, but 4th-5th-4th is good enough for me. i also personally can't remember the time we had a manager going into his 4th (full) season, 5th season with us - and that, for me, does represent (more) stability.

good on the guy, i hope here's with us next season and beyond.
 
From what I can surmise, many of the posters on here seem to be creating a variety of different managerial scenarios based on the "quality" of some of the stories published in the national press? Surely we all know how dangerous that can be and why journalist's will often put these kind of stories out?

However, when we do read these things in the paper, or on line, we all seem to analyse the latest piece of "breaking news" to the enth degree to formulate our rationale behind the "story"?

Every time a transfer window opens, we are linked with a variety of players and sometimes a transfer happens that totally sneaks under the radar like Modric? When it comes to managers, if Redknapp does go, all I hope is that Levy conducts his business behind closed doors and we don't have the tragic farce that was the removal of Jol.

If the "stories" are true, I only hope we get the new man in quick, as a new manager means transition and we all know what that means, don't we?
 
based on his performance at chelsea, how could anyone possible want AVB anywhere near the club? what an absolute fudging joke.

His performance at prior club, as well as the fact that his Cheat$ki team played better looking football than RDM, and btw, there is a very interestng stat that his Cheat$ki team actually has a better EPL record than RDM's ...
 
A Levy appointment is one which makes him look like the hero. First thing he did was get rid of Graham and appoint Hoddle. Then his flawless plan to appoint the guy who was going to guide France to the Euro Champsionships.

Then replace the most popular manager in recent years with the guy whose team made us look like amateurs.

The Henry appointment tho was just him putting his hands in the air and saying I give up, bring in Harry to clean this brick up.

Hoddle/Santini imo were very much fan influenced decisions (something the people on this thread should think about).

- Fans didn't like Graham personally and wanted someone who was Tottenham and played our style of football
- People were happy about Hoddle, when he left, Levy took so long to replace him, there was great pressure to have a "big name"
- Jol was replaced by who was then the most promising manager in Europe, person who checked the exact same boxes that half this thread complains that Harry lacts, i.e. Tactical, modern training, fitness, diet, club system, etc.
- Harry was a safety first appointment.
 
Hoddle/Santini imo were very much fan influenced decisions (something the people on this thread should think about).

- Fans didn't like Graham personally and wanted someone who was Tottenham and played our style of football
- People were happy about Hoddle, when he left, Levy took so long to replace him, there was great pressure to have a "big name"
- Jol was replaced by who was then the most promising manager in Europe, person who checked the exact same boxes that half this thread complains that Harry lacts, i.e. Tactical, modern training, fitness, diet, club system, etc.
- Harry was a safety first appointment.

i remember reading an interview with Arnesen (i think) may have even been Jol, he said that Levy's train of thought with appointing Santini was that fans were skeptical of the DoF system (do you remember the all round scoffing from everyone involved in english football at the time?) and that appointing a 'big name coach' would have made them a bit more accepting - he should have had more confidence in himself and the system i guess and appointed Jol from the outset.

totally understand the Graham sacking/Hoddle appointment - never should have had Graham here in the first place and Hoddle had a good rep as a manager at the time, doing really well with Southampton. Graham gave Levy an excuse to sack him by talking to the media about finances i believe, which was against his contract - a shame it was just before the Cup semi but when you get an opportunity to replace a manager that you want out then you take it i guess.
 
Graham's appointment sickened me. The lowest point of my years supporting Spurs. It was obvious that he only really came to us because he saw an opportunity to get back at the ones he loved the most and felt betrayed by. It was Levy's one major miscalculation IMHO. I think Hoddle was an emotional response, but Glenn was also a tactical genius who suffered some horrific luck IMHO; I STILL think he should be England manager today, he would do a tremendous job.

Santini was, as Jimmy said, an appt to make the whole DOF thing more palatable, and Arnesen was considered the future of the club until he fudged off to Chelsea when they flashed their gash. Ramos was, i think, excellent when he first came in, we won the cup, he got experimental and then his personal problems started building in Spain quite rapidly, he lost his focus/took his eye off the ball (sound familiar?) and in the end his position was absolutely untenable (which is why he never kicked up a fuss -it was as much to his benefit to go back and sort his brick out as it was our to turf him)...Harry was a safe option for a quick fix.

I hated Harry before he came to us.
I grew to love him very quickly because, primarily, I am a supporter of my club and as such a hypocrite 99% of the time when it comes to old enemies joining us (Graham was my exception) and I absolutely thrilled to how he moulded us that first full season, his decisions, his priorities, our CL qualification. I further thrilled to what I thought was coming...and then a few little things...and then I'd hear a few other things from good people...and then I saw us lose our mojo in the final third of the season once. Last season, we played some of the best football I can remember, fantastic stuff, controlling games, controlling the pace like a thermostat, brilliant...and then, again, it fell away when he stopped paying attention...

I WANT(ED) to LOVE Harry more than any other manager because he (to me) was a link to the days of Burky and Venners with his colloquialisms, etc. But he has left me with such disappointment in his OWN ability to focus on his job, and his own ability to be accountable, that I no longer TRUST him. Even if an uneasy peace is achieved and he by some miracle sticks around, I personally would find it impossible to FULLY trust his appreciation and desire for us/this job ever again. I'll support him, I am a supporter of my club. But I will never ever trust him.

The one thing nobody ever says about Levy is that actually, deep down, he can be too loyal and not ruthless enough. Take Martin Jol. Despite Martin having gone for two jobs behind Levy's back in the three years prior, when it came to the summer-before-the-sacking-season, the board wanted Jol to be sacked. Levy wanted to give him more time. Despite the board pressure, Levy decided not to sack him that summer, instead hoping he could make it happen. of course, that's a bit naive because once you've smelt a gas leak, chances are unless you turn the tap off the house will blow up. If Levy has had ANY weakness other than his occasional annoying brinksmanship in the market, it is this.

Due to the sad bereavement Levy suffered today, I doubt much will be heard in the next week or so...it's been a very tough time for him. Let's hope it all gets resolved, one way or another, by the middle of June.
 
I WANT(ED) to LOVE Harry more than any other manager because he (to me) was a link to the days of Burky and Venners with his colloquialisms, etc. But he has left me with such disappointment in his OWN ability to focus on his job, and his own ability to be accountable, that I no longer TRUST him. Even if an uneasy peace is achieved and he by some miracle sticks around, I personally would find it impossible to FULLY trust his appreciation and desire for us/this job ever again. I'll support him, I am a supporter of my club. But I will never ever trust him.

This reads like a lovelorn teenage girl writing into the agony column of "Jackie" (My sister used to get it)
 
To Steff's point ..

- I could give a brick, like Modric, no trust or pretense of love there, but deliver and I'll back you ..
 
It's funny how Arry should be given all the credit for making 3rd (he made sure in the press no one missed that) but exonerated of all responsibility for losing it instead blaming everything and everyone else but him. :|

he should be given credit for finishing fourth, for crying out loud.. we should all feel disappointed in missing out on third and unluckily missing out on CL, but the very fact that he is receiving such a large amount of flak for a generally fantastic season really is beyond comprehension.
 
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