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Frederic Kanoute
I don't dispute that. But an unsettled team due to constant personnel changes is more likely to concede than a settled one.
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
Only 16 points between 10th and 20th tells its own story, though. This year's relegation safety threshold will surely be one of the lowest of the PL era. Lack of quality throughout, bar the top few. Sadly, the Sky dream is being fulfilled — an oligarchy of top teams that can be offered up as the main product, delivering satisfaction to the majority of plastic fans who get to watch their choice of colour shirt thrash the also-running cannon-fodder every week. It didn't go quite to plan for them Saturday, but in the main, the competitiveness of this league is trending relentlessly downwards, I think.
Not sure I agree with that. Fulham are what, second bottom? They still have a lot of good players and certainly give teams a game. Don't think any of the bottom teams are 'cannon fodder'....
Re: 27-2......
honestly, it's the fact that despite the doom mongers on this board, we have a very good squad, I've said it multiple times
- A team with Lloris, Walker, Vert, Kaboul, Eriksen, Sandro, Chadli, Dembele, Ade, Soldado in it's line up will beat most teams in the PL in 2nd gear.
- When actually playing a team with close, equal or better players, the side needs to be organized, good team selection, good tactics and motivated.
Both our managers this season have failed miserably at the second item, hence against top teams we constantly look disorganized, unbalanced, lost and unmotivated.
A good manager would massively improve this squad.
honestly, it's the fact that despite the doom mongers on this board, we have a very good squad, I've said it multiple times
- A team with Lloris, Walker, Vert, Kaboul, Eriksen, Sandro, Chadli, Dembele, Ade, Soldado in it's line up will beat most teams in the PL in 2nd gear.
- When actually playing a team with close, equal or better players, the side needs to be organized, good team selection, good tactics and motivated.
Both our managers this season have failed miserably at the second item, hence against top teams we constantly look disorganized, unbalanced, lost and unmotivated.
A good manager would massively improve this squad.
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
What? Fulham have won 7 games this season.
chancer
Gudni Bergsson
Not sure I agree.
For a long time this season 4 teams could legitimately be called title contenders. A 5th - us - was talked about for a while (well, the first 3 weeks of the championship anyway!). I'm not sure I ever really remember that many teams being in the mix.
Back in the 70's & 80's it was Liverpool every season + one other random challenger like Villa, Forest or Everton. In the 90's it was United, with Arsenal getting the odd look in. But very few others legitimately in with a chance. I guess in the 40's & 50's it was more competitive, but that's really another universe and not really comparable to now.
At the other end of the table, there's always been fodder for the top teams to destroy week in, week out. If you look at games won by relegated teams in recent years v. eras of the past, it's not really that different - if anything, relegated teams were beaten up more in the old days:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions
I think in terms of structure the league is better now than ever. 4 or 5 teams at the top competing for the league, another 3 or so competing for CL, and at the bottom loads of teams worried about slipping into trouble. It's 3 or 4 competitive leagues within 1 league. Relatively few teams in the middle have nothing to play for.
I know, but they are hadrly cannon fodder ie whipping boys. My point was while you would expect to beat teams of this ilk they are no walkover. We've probably suffered more thrashings than they have
I know, but they are hadrly cannon fodder ie whipping boys. My point was while you would expect to beat teams of this ilk they are no walkover. We've probably suffered more thrashings than they have
Fulham have conceded 3 or more goals in 14 games.
0-6
0-5
0-4
1-4
1-4
2-4
and a bunch of 1-3s and 0-3s
They've actually been the ultimate whipping boys this season:
SteveAWOL
Colin Calderwood
Re: 27-2......
I was also slightly suprised at how few thrashings Spurs received during the 1990s, guess the cloggers we had back then were good for something!
I was also slightly suprised at how few thrashings Spurs received during the 1990s, guess the cloggers we had back then were good for something!
