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Victimpool FC - Klopp leaving, grown men crying

So they have to go till Jan with Suarez as their main striker, then Borini a young player who didnt get a chance at CFC, went to Swansea and couldnt get into their side in the championship and an 18 year old boy in the process letting a pretty decent player in Carroll join WHU on loan, thats red hot

"I would need to be a nutcase even to consider at this moment to let Carroll go out, unless there are other solutions for that."

I think they have done some very good business this window with Allen and Sahin, but they're leaving themselves ridiculously thin up front.
 
"I would need to be a nutcase even to consider at this moment to let Carroll go out, unless there are other solutions for that."

I think they have done some very good business this window with Allen and Sahin, but they're leaving themselves ridiculously thin up front.

Lets hope the racist gets injured after tomorrows game then
 
pages 3 and 4 if u fancy a laugh. "where do spurs get their money from"

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=297140.0

According to this: http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=1563&teamTabs=transfers
And this: http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=2590&teamTabs=transfers

We made an around 10m net profit this window, Liverpool meanwhile had a net loss of around 15. Those numbers probably aren't accurate, but it's at least some indication of what has actually gone on.
 
According to this: http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=1563&teamTabs=transfers
And this: http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=2590&teamTabs=transfers

We made an around 10m net profit this window, Liverpool meanwhile had a net loss of around 15. Those numbers probably aren't accurate, but it's at least some indication of what has actually gone on.


Here is the Summer 2012 spending from both clubs...

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...the figures speak for themselves.
 
Liverpool did cut a decent chunk off their wage bill.

Maxi, Kuyt, Bellamy, Carroll, Adam and whoever else.
 
Liverpool did cut a decent chunk off their wage bill.

Maxi, Kuyt, Bellamy, Carroll, Adam and whoever else.

Yeah, apart from loaning out Carroll without bringing in another forward/attacking midfielder/winger their business this window has been the most sensible in years. No wonder the Liverpool fans are upset....
 
Have to add this as well:

Rodgers: We need to add goals to the team, that has been the aim since I came

Allardyce: We need to add goals to the team and in Andy Carroll we've done that.
 
Have to add this as well:

Rodgers: We need to add goals to the team, that has been the aim since I came

Allardyce: We need to add goals to the team and in Andy Carroll we've done that.

I think Carroll will add goals for West Ham, he fits Allardyce and his playing style like a punch in the face of Charlie Adam.
 
Just thinking about Levy and his obvious strategy to shadow our transfer targets...well, he's a businessman and his business is Tottenham, he's obviously going to look at the threats to them in his SWOT analysis, which would include us (being a club on an assumed upward spiral, aiming to get to the place which they occupy and above hopefully). So how can he mitigate this threat and the overall risk that we pose? Well, apart from indirectly ensuring that Tottenham gain as many points as possible I suppose the only way he can get to us directly is by going for our transfer targets, whether they need them or not (I don't pay enough attention to who they sign tbf) - this way he can directly affect our chances of replacing them and/or going above them in the table.

It's quite pragmatic and apologies if already mentioned. That aside, he's still a cun*.

:ross:
 
Just realised they have signed Samed Yesil for £1m!!! WTF!?! and they want Owen?? That is a real coup right there! Fantastic signing. We should have been there, especially at that price. Expect to see him soon.
 
Fenway Sports group have basically said they aren't going to be spending a lot of money for the forseeable future. They've also just got rid of some of the best players for Boston Red Sox and slashed the payroll significantly. I'd be worried If I were a Liverpool fan!
 
Just realised they have signed Samed Yesil for £1m!!! WTF!?! and they want Owen?? That is a real coup right there! Fantastic signing. We should have been there, especially at that price. Expect to see him soon.

kids decent apparently, but also people said he has quite a few kinks to iron out.

i honestly dont think we needed him and would have been buying just for buying sake. But i am looking forward to seeing him
 
Supporters' group Spirit of Shankly have called on Liverpool chairman Tom Werner to be held accountable for the way the club is being run.

Disquiet has been growing among fans regarding the lack of a decision on whether to build a new stadium or renovate Anfield.

The lack of a prominent figure from owners Fenway Sports Group based on Merseyside, the sacking of iconic figure Kenny Dalglish as manager in May and, most recently, the apparent mistakes made in the transfer market have led to more murmurings of discontent.

Principal owner John Henry wrote an open letter to fans on Monday admitting to mistakes in their near two-year reign and outlining FSG's blueprint for the future but SoS believe more questions need answering.

"There comes a point at any football club where the chairman has to step forward on behalf of the board and be held accountable for decisions that they have made and strategies that they have implemented," said a statement from SoS, who were at the forefront of a campaign to oust former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

"With key questions continuing to go unanswered, Spirit of Shankly suggests it is time for Tom Werner to be held accountable as chairman of Liverpool Football Club.

"After all, the buck stops with him, not with those acting with his authority and not with people no longer at the club."

Friday's transfer deadline day passed without a replacement being found for striker Andy Carroll, who had been loaned to West Ham the previous day.

Rodgers had wanted to bring in Fulham 29-year-old Clint Dempsey but FSG were reportedly unwilling to meet the Cottagers' inflated valuation, leaving the Reds boss with only two recognised forwards until at least January.

In his letter Henry insisted the club's ambitions were not about "cementing a mid-table place with expensive, short-term quick fixes that will only contribute for a couple of years".

That led to suggestions - dismissed by Rodgers - there was a difference of opinion between the owners and the manager.

SoS believes greater backing should have been given to the Northern Irishman just three months into the job.

"Following yet another summer where off-the-pitch activities at Liverpool Football Club have dominated the headlines, we once again find the club ownership attempting to explain away business decisions that have overshadowed footballing matters," said the statement.

"Spirit of Shankly reiterates its stance that the position of manager at Liverpool Football Club should be supported with all of the resources at the club's disposal.

"However, events of last Friday and the subsequent open letter from the club's principal owner indicate that almost two years into FSG's ownership of the club, this is not yet the case.

"There remains no ownership presence on this side of the Atlantic. It is our opinion that this situation has led directly to the 'mistakes' alluded to in Mr Henry's open letter.

"Should the club's absentee owners not wish to establish a full-time base in Liverpool it remains imperative that they appoint a chief executive of a calibre commensurate with the club's global status to act with the full authority of the owners in their absence.

"Without this it is far from sufficient for a club of Liverpool's stature to have a part-time chairman, based on another continent, with various other interests, and from whom little or nothing of consequence is seen or heard.

"In case FSG need reminding, they are now employing their third manager, have already dispensed with the services of their director of football and now accusatory fingers are pointing in the direction of their managing director (Ian Ayre)."


http://www.teamtalk.com/liverpool/8051061/Reds-fans-question-leadership
 
I heard a rumour that they paid £5m as a loan fee for Sahin..


Though not sure if it was reliable.

I was half watching him versus Arsenal and thought Sahin didn't play that well. He didn't seem to get involved that much and Allen looked the better player, though I wasn't 100% concentrating on the match.
Is that how everyone else saw it?
 
I was half watching him versus Arsenal and thought Sahin didn't play that well. He didn't seem to get involved that much and Allen looked the better player, though I wasn't 100% concentrating on the match.
Is that how everyone else saw it?


Allen looked better, agreed. Then again Allen had a pre-season with the club and already plays exactly how Rodgers wants him to..
 
I heard a rumour that they paid £5m as a loan fee for Sahin..


Though not sure if it was reliable.

Was reported as something like that. In a comparison though our sign-on fee for Adebayor was probably an amount not too far from that.

I was half watching him versus Arsenal and thought Sahin didn't play that well. He didn't seem to get involved that much and Allen looked the better player, though I wasn't 100% concentrating on the match.
Is that how everyone else saw it?

I agree with that. His first game in the PL and for the team, up against fairly good opposition and after his injury and limited playing time last season I wasn't surprised.

One of the reasons I didn't want us to bring him in on a loan, I think he will need quite some time to reach match fitness and get used to life in the Premiership.
 
In regards Sahin; apart from the long term injury/fitness and first game issues, I noticed he wasn't always on the same tactical terms as others. He would pass and move in offensively but not receive the pass back to cut the goon defence up (quick 1-2). P
 
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