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Transfer thread

SpurMeUp said:
If we just signed Eze, the Japanese CB, and a similar CM, I think I would be happy. There isn't a need for us to sign so many players when Frank hasn't had a chance to get his hands on the existing players yet.

Who we sell is maybe more contentious. Son? Davies? Romero? Potentially the two leaders from Ange's setup. Not sure letting both go would be a good idea, when we need more experienced players.
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RW is still both an area that could be improved and thin for cover (assuming Deki plays central)

Son & Davies will probably be more their choice than club, i.e. club will take/accept offers, don't think we will push them out.

Romero is unlikely to get the bid needed to make him move, and with CL, he'll probably not fuss, I expect he goes next season.

Muttley said:
I still think the Biss / Bents axis will be broken up this year. Both have a year left in their contracts and I don't know how both get new contracts this summer. Surely one will stay, one will go.

I'm very curious as to what we do in the middle of the park.

I'm also of the school of thought that the right offer for Sarr would be accepted by the club and player.
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Agree re Biss/Bentancur, noise for some time has been Bentancur is getting new contract (personally I see him as having higher celing, pre-injury Conte version of Bentancur was close to elite). Biss could have a role in a Frank system, but age, consistency issues probably mean he moves on (if we have someone coming in)

I don't think we are even considering Sarr, he's a box to box runner that can provide a bit of a goal threat that's just a little bit different from what the others do. Personally think Frank's 2 at the moment will be Bentancur & Bergvall.
 
Raziel said:
Agree re Biss/Bentancur, noise for some time has been Bentancur is getting new contract (personally I see him as having higher celing, pre-injury Conte version of Bentancur was close to elite). Biss could have a role in a Frank system, but age, consistency issues probably mean he moves on (if we have someone coming in)

I don't think we are even considering Sarr, he's a box to box runner that can provide a bit of a goal threat that's just a little bit different from what the others do. Personally think Frank's 2 at the moment will be Bentancur & Bergvall.
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I guess the question becomes with fixtures coming thick and fast how often do we see the Bents/Berg double pivot? Interestingly the midfield of Biss/Sarr and Madds was the go-to midfield in Ange's early days. With Sarr right centric but box-to-box and Madds tucked in left but free to be creative, that seemed to work.

I guess I'll just enjoy the ride. I feel quite liberated knowing that Frank has the versatility in his use formations and tactics. I think we'll get used to seeing slightly different setups and a bigger ability to change formations mid-game.
 
I wonder whether Lange had to google Kota Takai, Lucien Agoumé, Koni De Winter and Niccolò Pisilli before he added them to his summer shopping list?

What's your individual score (0-4) on knowing these guys without googling them? Mine was big fat zero.
 
Muttley said:
I wonder whether Lange had to google Kota Takai, Lucien Agoumé, Koni De Winter and Niccolò Pisilli before he added them to his summer shopping list?

What's your individual score (0-4) on knowing these guys without googling them? Mine was big fat zero.
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The score only counts from the moment they actually play for you. How many times have we seen over the years upon a player's signing them being lauded and the answer for all ills? It happens across the board at all clubs. Frankly the proof is always on the pudding as they say.

I've been a critic of the way this club does business (specifically the timing) but I've never really criticised the names as such especially if they are an unknown quantity. Then you just have to give them time and judge the success of the signing based on the performances they put out.

All the other transfer window brick is really just fan pride and ego and it's fudging irrelevant. I don't care if we sign a player for 100m or 1m. How suitable is the player? What attributes do they have? Are they going to improve the first 11? These are the questions that matter. Not whether Danny Rose knows their fudging name.
 
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Bishop said:
The score only counts from the moment they actually play for you. How many times have seen over the years upon a player's signing them being lauded and the answer for all ills? It happens across the board at all clubs. Frankly the proof is always on the pudding as they say.

I've he really been a critic of the way this club does business (specifically the timing) but I've never really criticised the names as such especially if they are an unknown quantity. Then you just have to give them time and judge the success of the signing based on the performances they put out.

All the other transfer window brick is really just fan pride and ego and it's fudging irrelevant. I don't care if we sign a player for 100m or 1m. How suitable is the player? What attributes do they have? Are they going to improve the first 11? These are the questions that matter. Not whether Danny Rose knows their fudging name.
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Want to make sure you haven't made an assumption of what I think good and bad is. I actually want to be googling names as I knew nothing about Venom, Romero, VDV, Udogie, Porro, Bentancur. I could go on and on, but we make good signings where I have to google, mostly in the younger category. I don't disagree with what you say though. The timing of our transfers has sucked at times.

As it is a transfer speculation thread, I was more interested to know whether other fans who watch more football than me know these names. Take De Winter. He's 23 now and a full international. He might have come on someone's radar. Tommy certainly knew about Takai as he's out there in Japan. He was posting about it a few days ago.

Anyway, you can't change the rules of my game. I invented the scoring system :cool:
 
Muttley said:
Want to make sure you haven't made an assumption of what I think good and bad is. I actually want to be googling names as I knew nothing about Venom, Romero, VDV, Udogie, Porro, Bentancur. I could go on and on, but we make good signings where I have to google, mostly in the younger category. I don't disagree with what you say though. The timing of our transfers has sucked at times.

As it is a transfer speculation thread, I was more interested to know whether other fans who watch more football than me know these names. Take De Winter. He's 23 now and a full international. He might have come on someone's radar. Tommy certainly knew about Takai as he's out there in Japan. He was posting about it a few days ago.

Anyway, you can't change the rules of my game. I invented the scoring system :cool:
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Sorry mate due to my tone it probably came across like I was criticising you but I wasn't. I was agreeing and just going on a bit of general rant. 😅
 
SpurMeUp said:
If he signed a new contract I could see Frank making him into what we suspected he could be: a monster of a midfielder.
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Needs to play in a midfield two, not as a lone 6. And needs someone next to him who can take more of the creative/passing responsibility. And ideally also sit back more.

I think pretty much the same about Bentancur though.

Given contracts and club trained issues if we bring in a new deep midfielder one of them probably has to go.
 
braineclipse said:
Needs to play in a midfield two, not as a lone 6. And needs someone next to him who can take more of the creative/passing responsibility. And ideally also sit back more.

I think pretty much the same about Bentancur though.

Given contracts and club trained issues if we bring in a new deep midfielder one of them probably has to go.
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Would agree but Bentancur can be progressive and hope to see more of it under Frank.
 
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