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Tottenham await green light on multi-million pound 'player lodge'

Tottenham will learn early next year whether they will have the green light to build multi-million-pound player accommodation close to their training ground.

The ambitious scheme would see a 45-room “player lodge” constructed at Myddleton Farm, a stone’s throw from the site of their Enfield training base.

Standard Sport understands that as well as using the lodge to house their own players, Spurs would host other clubs and national teams preparing for games in London.

It is understood that, if the plans are approved, England could use the site before home fixtures, while Barcelona and AC Milan are thought to have expressed an interest in staying there when they prepare for European matches in London.

The planning application was submitted to Enfield Council on October 6 and Tottenham hope there will be a positive decision as early as February next year. Club staff then made a presentation to the council on November 4. There have been extensive consultations and Spurs are optimistic they will be given the thumbs-up.

The latest move is part of the club’s long-term project to provide an infrastructure comparable with those of the top clubs in Europe. Spurs’ new training ground, which was opened in 2012, is the envy of clubs across the continent.

The lodge would give the head coach the option of keeping his squad together in the build-up to home games, and would make it easier for medical staff to treat and monitor players.

By providing the best possible facilities, Spurs hope to have a better chance of doing better on the pitch. These proposed upgrades go hand in hand with plans to build a £400million, 56,000-seat stadium close to White Hart Lane.

Head coach Mauricio Pochettino takes a close interest in every level of the club is keen on the accommodation plans. Standard Sport revealed last month that Pochettino wants the club to alter its recruitment strategy for younger players, focusing on promising foreign teenagers as well as local ones.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-multimillion-pound-player-lodge-9897384.html

I remember the story from Southampton about him making sure players have their own bedding when they stay at hotels for away games and things like that.
 
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Tottenham await green light on multi-million pound 'player lodge'

Tottenham will learn early next year whether they will have the green light to build multi-million-pound player accommodation close to their training ground.

The ambitious scheme would see a 45-room “player lodge” constructed at Myddleton Farm, a stone’s throw from the site of their Enfield training base.

Standard Sport understands that as well as using the lodge to house their own players, Spurs would host other clubs and national teams preparing for games in London.

It is understood that, if the plans are approved, England could use the site before home fixtures, while Barcelona and AC Milan are thought to have expressed an interest in staying there when they prepare for European matches in London.

The planning application was submitted to Enfield Council on October 6 and Tottenham hope there will be a positive decision as early as February next year. Club staff then made a presentation to the council on November 4. There have been extensive consultations and Spurs are optimistic they will be given the thumbs-up.

The latest move is part of the club’s long-term project to provide an infrastructure comparable with those of the top clubs in Europe. Spurs’ new training ground, which was opened in 2012, is the envy of clubs across the continent.

The lodge would give the head coach the option of keeping his squad together in the build-up to home games, and would make it easier for medical staff to treat and monitor players.

By providing the best possible facilities, Spurs hope to have a better chance of doing better on the pitch. These proposed upgrades go hand in hand with plans to build a £400million, 56,000-seat stadium close to White Hart Lane.

Head coach Mauricio Pochettino takes a close interest in every level of the club is keen on the accommodation plans. Standard Sport revealed last month that Pochettino wants the club to alter its recruitment strategy for younger players, focusing on promising foreign teenagers as well as local ones.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-multimillion-pound-player-lodge-9897384.html

I doubt that that is true.

Our academy already has the balance right, IMO. Mostly local lads supplemented by three or four foreign kids aged 16 or above. The academy is doing a great job. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Besides which, Poch has no say in the running of the academy. Rightly so.

As to focusing on the recruitment of more young foreign players for the first team, that's also unlikely, IMO. For the simple reason that, over recent seasons, we've actually recruited loads of young foreign players. It's young English players who we've largely ignored.
 
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Edmonton from COYS said:

Update from the top - fire makes no difference to the legal process, still heading to court in January and Archway still have a weak case. Spurs confident on cpo. A deal can never be ruled out but not happening at the moment.
 
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I remember the story from Southampton about him making sure players have their own bedding when they stay at hotels for away games and things like that.

I thought that was their former DoF? (Cortese or whatever he was called?)
 
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Sounds like the Sky/GB cycling boss and his 'improving 1% in each area' type thing. It all counts.
Clive Woodward was very similar with the England rugby team and again when he went to Southampton.
 
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The latest move is part of the club’s long-term project to provide an infrastructure comparable with those of the top clubs in Europe. Spurs’ new training ground, which was opened in 2012, is the envy of clubs across the continent.

Does anyone know why this is, I don't know much about training facilities, even in football. What is it about Hotspur Way that makes it so special?
 
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We're probably one of the biggest (hence richest) clubs building a new training facility recently. Most bigger (and richer) clubs will have done so earlier so we can learn from them.

A training facility is an area where we can probably compete with the richest clubs. They can spend more but there is a limiting return. Ours, from all reports, is state of the art now and even if, say, City went all out to build the ultimate there will only be so much they could do better with all the money in sheikhdom.
 
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I doubt that that is true.

Our academy already has the balance right, IMO. Mostly local lads supplemented by three or four foreign kids aged 16 or above. The academy is doing a great job. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Besides which, Poch has no say in the running of the academy. Rightly so.

As to focusing on the recruitment of more young foreign players for the first team, that's also unlikely, IMO. For the simple reason that, over recent seasons, we've actually recruited loads of young foreign players. It's young English players who we've largely ignored.

Baldini has been going round the globe signing 15 and 16 years olds like Musa Yahaya, Ismail Azzaoui and Rares Lazar‏, so this is definitely already happening.

Bentaleb has obviously been a success story and Veljkovic seems highly rated, but we've had a lot that haven't worked out too - Alex Olsen, Peckhart, M'Poku etc.
 
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Does anyone know why this is, I don't know much about training facilities, even in football. What is it about Hotspur Way that makes it so special?

Check out this thread: http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php/6922-Club-training-centres

Hotspur Way was ahead of the curve when it opened in 2012 and a massive improvement upon the Lodge that it replaced but all of our rivals in the top 8 of the league now have similar state-of-the-art training facilities so we're constantly having to innovate to try and stay ahead of the pack.
 
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I thought that was their former DoF? (Cortese or whatever he was called?)

This.

BBC Sport - Nicola Cortese: Southampton future uncertain after departure
...Nothing was left to chance. Everything was planned, analysed, discussed. The club's poor away form was one issue. Why did they struggle?

Cortese refused to accept the club's geographical location as an explanation. Players were asked to fill out questionnaires. What time did they wake up at home? What were their habits? Did their children wake them, did the dog? The results were analysed and changes were made.

Then the 45-year-old focused on the environment. Now, when Southampton travel away from home, the hotel is often booked for two nights rather than one. On the first night, club staff arrive and clean the already pristine rooms. They vacuum up every particle of dust that might cause illness or carry a bug.

Then bespoke mattresses are placed on each bed, tailored to each player. The duvets, the pillow cases and the sheets are washed and ironed by the club, using the same washing powder and the same methods. Wherever the players are, their bed smells and feels the same.

The same applies to food, with the club chef travelling ahead of the squad to each and every hotel. Marginal gains were everything to Cortese.

BBC Sport - Southampton: Nicola Cortese at heart of Saints success story
...Marginal gains are everything at Southampton. Small improvements on and off the field that add up to continued and consistent improvement. The players talk about their chairman as someone who constantly surprises them, challenges them and demands more from them. The new training ground is a case in point.

The first team are expected to move into it next summer but the players are already talking among themselves safe in the knowledge that it will be the best, simply because their chairman has overseen the entire project. Southampton want to create an environment where the players want to stay around after training and want to mix with each other. The main building will resemble a five-star hotel, as will the staff.

The 12 pitches have been built on different levels to avoid creating a large, windswept area. Gardeners will be employed, terracing installed and the playing surfaces will vary from pitch to pitch to replicate the many different types of grass and artificial grass that is woven into Premier League pitches.
 
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I know someone close to the England setup and this is what they did for the World Cup... in the year before they visited the potential players, found out all sorts of stuff like curtains, mattresses, then replicated in Brazil. Thought it sounded far fetched at the time.

Mind you, fat lot of good it did, should have made them all stay in El Travelodge
 
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Check out this thread: http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php/6922-Club-training-centres

Hotspur Way was ahead of the curve when it opened in 2012 and a massive improvement upon the Lodge that it replaced but all of our rivals in the top 8 of the league now have similar state-of-the-art training facilities so we're constantly having to innovate to try and stay ahead of the pack.

Nah. We're still way ahead of the rest - although mostly because ours is the most recently built.

Hotspur Way will be eclipsed by City's new training centre when it's finished later this year, though. Not surprising because it's nothing to them to splash £100m on it. They'll even have a 7K mini stadium as part of it.
 
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Baldini has been going round the globe signing 15 and 16 years olds like Musa Yahaya, Ismail Azzaoui and Rares Lazar‏, so this is definitely already happening.

Bentaleb has obviously been a success story and Veljkovic seems highly rated, but we've had a lot that haven't worked out too - Alex Olsen, Peckhart, M'Poku etc.

Exactly. We're already adding one or two foreign players to supplement our local talent pool. So there's no reason for us to focus on recruiting even more young foreign players.
 
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Tottenham await green light on multi-million pound 'player lodge'

Tottenham will learn early next year whether they will have the green light to build multi-million-pound player accommodation close to their training ground.

The ambitious scheme would see a 45-room “player lodge” constructed at Myddleton Farm, a stone’s throw from the site of their Enfield training base.

Standard Sport understands that as well as using the lodge to house their own players, Spurs would host other clubs and national teams preparing for games in London.

The lodge would give the head coach the option of keeping his squad together in the build-up to home games, and would make it easier for medical staff to treat and monitor players.


One can imagine the youth players being put up in digs near the training centre, so they can live, work and play together, and attend school/education/media training as well as football training... and one can imagine the first team staying there the night before home games or the night before travelling for away games... and in the end you could imagine Spurs building an estate of footballers mansions for the players so they can choose to live there as well.

A bit like Cheatski... their players have invaded somewhere (is it Chobham, I forget) to the extent that they own loads of the mansions in that corner of London and can all socialise etc.
 
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Nah. We're still way ahead of the rest - although mostly because ours is the most recently built.

Hotspur Way will be eclipsed by City's new training centre when it's finished later this year, though. Not surprising because it's nothing to them to splash £100m on it. They'll even have a 7K mini stadium as part of it.
Why though? They can't even fill the real stadium. That really is nothing but vanity IMO
 
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Why though? They can't even fill the real stadium. That really is nothing but vanity IMO

The thinking behind it is that the academy players get used to playing in front of biggish crowds. I believe that one of the rules concerning the new U21 league is that games have to be played in proper stadiums - not just on a training ground pitch.

I would guess that City's home U21 and U18 games would be free admittance and since the new training centre is adjacent to the stadium (and therefore in the middle of a built up area - as opposed to Hotspur Way, for instance), it's possible that they will get decent crowds.
 
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The thinking behind it is that the academy players get used to playing in front of biggish crowds. I believe that one of the rules concerning the new U21 league is that games have to be played in proper stadiums - not just on a training ground pitch.

I would guess that City's home U21 and U18 games would be free admittance and since the new training centre is adjacent to the stadium (and therefore in the middle of a built up area - as opposed to Hotspur Way, for instance), it's possible that they will get decent crowds.

Fair enough. They still can't fill their stadium though ;)
 
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Why though? They can't even fill the real stadium. That really is nothing but vanity IMO

Build it and they will come... if Cit£h continue to win trophies on a regular basis then they are eventually going to attract as many glory hunters as ManU did during the 1990s, so might as well build the stadium now whilst they've got the cash burning a hole in the owner' pocket I suppose.

The thinking behind it is that the academy players get used to playing in front of biggish crowds. I believe that one of the rules concerning the new U21 league is that games have to be played in proper stadiums - not just on a training ground pitch.

I would guess that City's home U21 and U18 games would be free admittance and since the new training centre is adjacent to the stadium (and therefore in the middle of a built up area - as opposed to Hotspur Way, for instance), it's possible that they will get decent crowds.

A bit of a loss leader but sounds like an effective way of attracting a new generation of fans which will help them with FFP in the future.
 
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