Thomas Frank - Head Coach

[Grays_1890]

Could unite, but won't. Would love to see them behind the team at games instead of the constant booing, but not expecting it until we string a few wins together.

That's just ridiculous though, fans should see the correlation of making the place an easier place to come and play and the results.

It's been the same under multiple managers and results, fans expecting the stadium to somehow manifest into something else for them.

 

[Grays_1890]

It doesn’t take too unhappy people to make a decent amount of negative noise

?????????

 

[SpurMeUp]

Would it be so controversial to give the manager unconditional support until the end of the season, and then appraise?

I’d back any manager who has even a modicum of ability. It takes time to mould and refine a group of players on the pitch, especially in the situation we currently find ourselves.

The expectations among fans are understandable, but short-sighted. Spurs is a way for people to escape the daily grind, and when that escape turns into a losing grind without many bright spots, things turn toxic fast. Yet fans need to focus on support and togetherness, to spark some positivity and camaraderie. Any manager needs time to build something, and that patience is crucial.

 

[Grays_1890]

Would it be so controversial to give the manager unconditional support until the end of the season, and then appraise?

I’d back any manager who has even a modicum of ability. It takes time to mould and refine a group of players on the pitch, especially in the situation we currently find ourselves.

The expectations among fans are understandable, but short-sighted. Spurs is a way for people to escape the daily grind, and when that escape turns into a losing grind without many bright spots, things turn toxic fast. Yet fans need to focus on support and togetherness, to spark some positivity and camaraderie. Any manager needs time to build something, and that patience is crucial.

It says something about football now that this will likely be seen as the controversial view haahaha

 

[Bedfordspurs]

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Too many
Better?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Would it be so controversial to give the manager unconditional support until the end of the season, and then appraise?

I’d back any manager who has even a modicum of ability. It takes time to mould and refine a group of players on the pitch, especially in the situation we currently find ourselves.

The expectations among fans are understandable, but short-sighted. Spurs is a way for people to escape the daily grind, and when that escape turns into a losing grind without many bright spots, things turn toxic fast. Yet fans need to focus on support and togetherness, to spark some positivity and camaraderie. Any manager needs time to build something, and that patience is crucial.

You earn support
Why would you support someone because of their title?
Fans didn’t vote for him so he wasn’t elected in
He was chosen by the club leaders

 

[billyiddo]

No one has to/or even should give unconditional support, time should be given however and that to me isn't taking a breather from constant complaints and digs to say "of course he should be given time" every so often.


The amount of grandstanding and pearl clutching in retrospect over how Nuno was treated by the fans is looking more than a bit superficial now there's another manager who's got off to a poor start.

 

[SpurMeUp]

You earn support

So you arrive at a game mute and just give support when things go well. Okay.

Why would you support someone because of their title?

Because you can effect change. When there are lots of young players and the team is in its infancy needing to feel support and courage, you can make a difference.

Fans didn’t vote for him so he wasn’t elected in

Thank fuk.

He was chosen by the club leaders

Nothing new here. What is new is the entitlement and lack of fuk-em-all-support. At the Lane there was far more togetherness in spite of the results.

 

[Grays_1890]

Too many
Better?

I still don't get it, not being funny at all, just not sure what is being said?

 

[Grays_1890]

You earn support
Why would you support someone because of their title?
Fans didn’t vote for him so he wasn’t elected in
He was chosen by the club leaders

Wowzers

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I still don't get it, not being funny at all, just not sure what is being said?

It doesn’t take too many unhappy fans to make a lot of noise
It’s a vacuum in that stadium

 

[Bedfordspurs]

So you arrive at a game mute and just give support when things go well. Okay.


Because you can effect change. When there are lots of young players and the team is in its infancy needing to feel support and courage, you can make a difference.


Thank fuk.



Nothing new here. What is new is the entitlement and lack of fuk-em-all-support. At the Lane there was far more togetherness in spite of the results.

Yeah
You don’t arrive at a game and think… I know I’ll sing
This isn’t Germany with the orchestrated fans I’m afraid
The atmosphere is so bad as it reflects what people are seeing

When we played Ange ball and lost vs Chelsea fans stayed behind to give the players a reception that they earned

 

[Lemonade Money]

That account does nothing but create an "us and them" scenario, just read the replies, the sense of entitlement is off the scale.

The level of negotiables people seem to have for their support just seems massively odd for me

That post, and the thread below, couldn't sum up what is wrong with the fanbase any better.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

If your a band and you have a loads of hits song, and you playing a tour with a new album…. You still play your hug songs because you know that’s why your there
I’ve seen some bands try to be smart and only play the new stuff and they don’t tend to be memorable to successful gigs

 

[glorygloryeze]

We have to stick things out with Frank and hope he turns things around, at least until the summer.
We may have a view on how we want our club to play and feel but we should be under no illusions: our attractiveness to top coaches is really not all that.

Sadly, the way we've operated for 20 years under ENIC has put paid to that. So we might have to lump it anyway even if Frank makes us even worse than we are currently.

It will at least signal to other coaches that we do give those in the job reasonable support and reasonable time

 

[Grays_1890]

If your a band and you have a loads of hits song, and you playing a tour with a new album…. You still play your hug songs because you know that’s why your there
I’ve seen some bands try to be smart and only play the new stuff and they don’t tend to be memorable to successful gigs

That analogy really doesn't work because we don't have the same band members as we did in the 60s/70s or 80s.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

That analogy really doesn't work because we don't have the same band members as we did in the 60s/70s or 80s.

But the music is still meant to be the same
Hence why band members get replaced yet bands still successfully tour
I’ve seen the who but never saw the original drummer
I’ve seen the stones missing people who wrote the songs
I’ve seen Fleetwood Mac and they played Albatross … the guy who wrote left the band before I was born

Every time I had an idea of what I was getting before I even turned up and the band knew what was expected

 

[Grays_1890]

But the music is still meant to be the same
Hence why band members get replaced yet bands still successfully tour
I’ve seen the who but never saw the original drummer
I’ve seen the stones missing people who wrote the songs
I’ve seen Fleetwood Mac and they played Albatross … the guy who wrote left the band before I was born

Every time I had an idea of what I was getting before I even turned up and the band knew what was expected

SO you think a band playing the same tunes with practice and no distractions is comparable to competitive sport where there is an opposition 11 who want to disrupt everything you do for their own greatness?

Mate I think you might need a break from Spurs if these are your analogies of expectations

 

[Bedfordspurs]

SO you think a band playing the same tunes with practice and no distractions is comparable to competitive sport where there is an opposition 11 who want to disrupt everything you do for their own greatness?

Mate I think you might need a break from Spurs if these are your analogies of expectations

I wish
I’ve been doing since I was 5 and have spent so much of my life supporting .. supporting this club
I’ve spent a fortune and missed family events to support the team
But I do have expectations from my club and anyone representing it, just as I do for anyone sat near me
I don’t boo, but I don’t stand there singing when there is nothing to sing about
I expect the team to be set up in a way that is conducive of getting the best out of them, every game. I accept that can’t happen every time of course but I expect that to be the goal
I don’t expect is to win every game because I’m a spurs fan. That doesn’t happen
I like my manager or not act like a clam, but I also expect them to walk the talk. Id they say they want to so one thing, I expect them to do it

I do wish I didn’t have the addiction I have with football and this club because way too often it’s a let down. But that’s why we go again

 

[Jurgen the German]

If there was any serious danger of relegation we simply would not have thrown everything at the EL, and would not have finished 17th.

Also the reason we weren’t in any serious danger of relegation is because actually we were quite decent up to December.

And the point about the points difference from 18th being the marker of how close we were to relegation instead of the league position is absolutely correct. Just like if we finished 6th but 2 points from 1st, we’d be able to say we challenged for the title until the final day.

Most likely the league form would have been better if not for the EL. However, it’s not acceptable to finish 17th regardless of that competition. Whoever manages us has to juggle multiple competitions and you have to compete in all of them.