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The "If we go down" thread

I think it’s the saddest indictment of the club currently if fans are already saying they’re ok with it tbh. Trying to paint it as an ‘opportunity’ and a reset.

It isn’t, it’s a stain on the club because we should have simply never been mismanaged this badly. It’s absolute negligence that’s led us here. Those young players with quality will be the first ones snapped up.

There is no good side to relegation to me. I can understand peoples dreams about it leading to a set of young hungry players who understand Spurs more, but if we aren’t doing that whikst in the top league and playing football, we aren’t going to be doing it in the Championdhip after a big budget cut.

No one should be ok or making peace with relegation with ten games to go, they should be demanding the players fight, scratch and claw and make every effort to help us survive. The way we react is why we are where we are, we make peace with it, so do the players, then come summer, they swan off and we play Championship footy with zero guarantee of ever coming back up.
 
To be honest i still think we will get enough points to stay up.
Unless we somehow get a win on Thursday, I can see us not winning another game this season, until relegation is a mathematical certainty, when the pressure will lift. But then I'm a pessimist.
 
carl said:
Ive been trying to think of how to reply to this but words fail me.

In what world is relegation fun, especially for a club with £1 billion worth of debt?!
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I explained my point of view mate, in what I thought was a fair and balanced and also an (attempted) quite humorous way. Of course I don’t actually want us to be relegated! But if we are, I laid out why I think it could be an opportunity. Either way we need a reset.
 
Daisuk said:
I like this rather romantic view, and I’ve been trying to adopt it myself. I don’t think the Championship will be particularly fun necessarily, and I obviously don’t want us to get relegated - but it’s not the end of the world, and as you say - it could be the hard reset we need. There is something more authentic about the football down in the leagues. Not sure we would get a rub of that necessarily, with our fancy ass stadium and billion pound players, but it’ll be something else, at least, a new experience.

Me 20 years ago would be crushed by this prospect, but I find that I’m not all that upset by it now - too much personal brick taking up the worry-quota, I guess. We’ll be fine.
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Agreed. I too of course don’t want to get relegated. But if we are, I genuinely feel it will be ok. More Saudi Sportswashing Machine / Villa than Sheffield Wednesday. Because we do have strong finances. We aren’t built on a house of sand. And in some ways I think a reset would be good for us. Ideally we could do the clear out in the premier league. But if the unthinkable happens, I will find the good in it.
 
BrentwoodSpur said:
I honestly think a lot of people are in self preservation mode now. It can never be a good thing to get relegated and I’d imagine most would agree if it wasn’t so painful to admit
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Yes of course. And my post is absolutely self preservation. I’m looking for the positives. Not because I want it to happen but because it will be one of my darkest Spurs supporting days and I will need something to hold onto.
 
Mikey10 said:
Sheffield Wednesday...Leicester...Blackburn...West Brom...we're bigger than all of them, I suppose, but once you go down no guarantee your're coming up quickly again - or at all.

It would be an absolute disaster in so many ways.

Thankfully, I think we'll be okay - just.
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We have better finances than all of them. More high quality youth that would see this as an opportunity. I think we’re more likely to be Saudi Sportswashing Machine under Hughton than any of them.
 
DeanoAustin said:
The last sentence particularly seems a bit like slicing off your nose to spite your face...

I feel a bit sick when I think of relegation. It's not something I ever thought I'd see once we'd established ourselves in the top 6. It's coming between me and my night's sleep a bit. The humiliation. Spending a year (or more) out of the limelight. No longer being a big 6 club even if only in name. It terrifies me.

However, I don't think it'll be the doomsday scenario some are painting it. Life will go on. Tottenham will continue to exist. It'll still be our club. If we go down, we go down and we'll deal with it but until it's a certainty, the prospect should be worrying everyone of Lilywhite persuasion IMO.
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Yeah I don’t really want us to get relegated but if it hastens a much needed reset including at boardroom level then in some ways I will be happy. This club is an archetype of what happens when you do just enough to tread water and not enough to push on. The chickens will have come home to roost on that. And it won’t be the end of our journey supporting Tottenham, because we’ll be back. But a reset might be the things that’s needed to get us to ultimately better times.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Yes of course. And my post is absolutely self preservation. I’m looking for the positives. Not because I want it to happen but because it will be one of my darkest Spurs supporting days and I will need something to hold onto.
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That’s why I’ve deliberately avoided this place for a few days and I’m actively avoiding most socials and Talkbrick. The very thought of it is just too bricky to comprehend. On all the levels mentioned here. We should never have got in this situation in the first place. Wasn’t a dig btw. I’ve read enough cod your posts time to get the gist
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Sounds like it's become a drag on yours!

Sort yourself out you defeatist. :)

I swear the fans are half the problem.
No coincidence it's the home form that's gone to brick.
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I love it man. I don’t tend to react too much to short term results. But I do get really down when I see a long term trend or bad decisions being made that cause long term decline. I’m trying to find the humour in a terrible situation, but all I’m saying with our players feeling comfortable calling out the board, and ignoring their own fans, something needs to be reset.
 
Pandy said:
I actually think Poch might be enough of a romantic to take the job.

The squad overhaul on the other hand would be a complete brickshow.
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I actually agree with this. Maybe it’s more hope than expectation but if he sees it as ‘I always take a year to fully bed in my culture’ then maybe a year in the Champ to do that while breeding more positivity meaning he would win more games on the way…I can see that angle. Give him a ten year contract and pay him properly (with a clause that it can be terminated if no promotion after 2 seasons) and just accept that we broke up and dated other people, but that it was a massive mistake and we absolutely should get back together because we were perfect for each other all along.
 
Rafa87 said:
Talksport and the others would still revel in taking digs at us. I don’t think it matters what league we are in, we seem to be the universal whipping boys who are always going to take a kicking no matter what they do.
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There are far more negatives than positives and the new manager bounce hasn't happened , same mistakes and not a lot of fight from the squad, has all the echoes of 1977 , us and The Hammers.

Realistically, Tottenham’s fate was in West Ham’s hands. They were unable to overhaul Sunderland’s goal difference but stood an outside chance of beating The Hammers. West Ham needed a point to consign Spurs to Division Two regardless of how they Spurs got on in their final game of the season at home to Leicester. West Ham’s last two matches were at Anfield and at home to Man Utd, so Spurs had some hope.
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A Moment in Time - 1976-77 When Tottenham were Relegated

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It would be an absolute catastrophe if we get relegated. I am old enough to remember the last time we were relegated and it was a lot different in those days. As far as I can remember we more or less kept the same team for the (then) second division, and the financial impact was not anywhere near as bad as it would be now. We probably had one of the highest average attendences in the division. If I remember rightly our last few home games especially against our promotion rivals (Bolton and Sunderland come to mind) we had near on 60000 inside the old WHL . Even then we only just got 3rd place on goal difference to get automatic promotion and that was due to beating Bristol City 9-0 earlier in the season.
I actually think my poor old heart would give out if I had to go through a season like that again.
I am usually a massive pessimist when it comes to Spurs but I think (hope) we will get enough points to just about survive but it will be tight. The results in this weeks games will have a massive impact on the rest of our season
 
Goes to show what cannon fodder for the rest of PL we’ve been over past 12 months that we’re only ahead of Leeds by 2 points and trail Sunderland by 4 points; despite those promoted clubs having played 10 fewer games than us 😳

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