Richarlison

[MartyFunkhouser]

Still better than anyone else we have right?

You would take the option when all else fails, which has always been the point

 

[Muttley]

Really? A 'credible person'?

https://www.borgenmagazine.com/richarlisons-charity-work/

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1978843/2020/08/07/richarlison-story-everton-brazil-no9/

https://www.olympics.com/en/news/richarlison-exclusive-now-i-know-the-weight-that-ronaldo-carried

Cancer Patient Housing: Donates 10% of his Tottenham Hotspur salary to the Father Roberto Lettieri Institute (Instituto Padre Roberto Lettieri) in Barretos, São Paulo, which provides free housing, meals, transportation, and support for cancer patients and their families undergoing treatment at the Hospital de Amor.

COVID-19 & Flood Relief: Distributed thousands of food parcels, funded oxygen cylinders for hospitals in Manaus during severe shortages, and provided care packages during regional floods.

Public Advocacy: Uses his platform to speak out on social issues including racism, poverty, police brutality, LGBTQ+ rights, gender violence, and environmental protection

Yeah. I think Richy's done more than enough to show he's a 'credible person'.

I stand by what I said Steff. This social media offload stuff is incredibly important in our society and is getting worse. You can be an absolute saint in life (as you show above) but when the pressure is on you personally then you still need to show as much credibility. Richi didn't, like so mnay others. He just ran to social media, vented and in my opinion massively let himself down. It is therefore a question mark on his credibility under pressure. That's often when it is most important in life.

Be interesting to see whether he has one of those clauses "The views posted on here are those of the individual and not the employer etc...". We used to be given clauses to add to our social media in corporate that both reminded us that we should always behave well and also protected the brand of the companies we worked for.

The other problem is Richi didn't just do it once. Within a week or so he was goading Roberto with his follow up. He'll do it again no doubt.

 

[Baleforce]

I don’t think social media in football is important at all.

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

I don’t think social media in football is important at all.

Is and isnt. What Richy posted isnt that big a deal

 

[Baleforce]

Is and isnt. What Richy posted isnt that big a deal

Regurgitated news yeah, but that’s still available without SM.

The only SM I see is what is posted on here, and that’s way too much, and doesn’t give me anything (of value) I don’t get directly from more reliable sources.

 

[Bishop]

Still better than anyone else we have right?

It's debatable to me as he adds an many problems if not more then he solves and he's doesn't even solve anything.

I think give Marmoush a season up top and he can match Richy's numbers, quite easily imo. Richy doesn't actually score many.

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

I stand by what I said Steff. This social media offload stuff is incredibly important in our society and is getting worse. You can be an absolute saint in life (as you show above) but when the pressure is on you personally then you still need to show as much credibility. Richi didn't, like so mnay others. He just ran to social media, vented and in my opinion massively let himself down. It is therefore a question mark on his credibility under pressure. That's often when it is most important in life.

Be interesting to see whether he has one of those clauses "The views posted on here are those of the individual and not the employer etc...". We used to be given clauses to add to our social media in corporate that both reminded us that we should always behave well and also protected the brand of the companies we worked for.

The other problem is Richi didn't just do it once. Within a week or so he was goading Roberto with his follow up. He'll do it again no doubt.

I agree with you. First of all, very happy to state Richy is a good person. And also to say that the actual words used in his posts aren’t egregious on their own.

But it’s the context that makes them very bad. For someone in his position there are simply higher standards of behaviour expected in that moment, and he failed to meet those standards.

Even if you agree with his stance of not wanting to be told where to move - and frankly I can see where he’s coming from - I’m just not sure why it needed to be broadcast on social media? Could it not have been communicated directly to the clubs?

 

[billyiddo]

I agree with you. First of all, very happy to state Richy is a good person. And also to say that the actual words used in his posts aren’t egregious on their own.

But it’s the context that makes them very bad. For someone in his position there are simply higher standards of behaviour expected in that moment, and he failed to meet those standards.

Even if you agree with his stance of not wanting to be told where to move - and frankly I can see where he’s coming from - I’m just not sure why it needed to be broadcast on social media? Could it not have been communicated directly to the clubs?

He was getting flak for scuppering the Ndiaye deal - i can see why he felt the need to put his side out.

 

[SissokoWasGood (BoL)]

He was getting flak for scuppering the Ndiaye deal - i can see why he felt the need to put his side out.

I get that it might have been his intention to put his side out, but his statement didn’t buy him any good will from any side. If anything, he all but confirmed that it was him that stopped the deal?

I remember seeing on this thread that the club should have made clear the deals were separate, but the initial report from Ornstein states that they were separate deals. So that was clearly what was briefed.

All these weeks on I’m also still none the wiser of what Richy actually wanted? Willing to go to Everton but not like that? Didn’t want to be treated as a makeweight? Didn’t want to be forced to take a wage cut? (Whether that’s even true?) my point is - the statement didn’t help clarify his side at all. It made things worse for him and for everyone. And that’s precisely why footballers are expected to not head to social media to offer running commentary when clubs are trying to work out a multi million pound deal.

 

[Muttley]

He was getting flak for scuppering the Ndiaye deal - i can see why he felt the need to put his side out.

This is a little bit of revisionism for me. Richi put a thinly veiled threat (implied to be towards THFC) out on social media that he would decide his future and people in the past had created him issues. The Ndiaye angle wasn't the reason that this thing blew up. I don't thing anyone would blame a player for another player not moving. We all know the football business.

It was the undermining of his own club, our club, that was the tension point.

 

[Muttley]

I get that it might have been his intention to put his side out, but his statement didn’t buy him any good will from any side. If anything, he all but confirmed that it was him that stopped the deal?

I remember seeing on this thread that the club should have made clear the deals were separate, but the initial report from Ornstein states that they were separate deals. So that was clearly what was briefed.

All these weeks on I’m also still none the wiser of what Richy actually wanted? Willing to go to Everton but not like that? Didn’t want to be treated as a makeweight? Didn’t want to be forced to take a wage cut? (Whether that’s even true?) my point is - the statement didn’t help clarify his side at all. It made things worse for him and for everyone. And that’s precisely why footballers are expected to not head to social media to offer running commentary when clubs are trying to work out a multi million pound deal.

You mean acting like a "professional" in your job and respecting your employers. GHod forbid.