parklane1
Vic Buckingham
That's just it they do not, they like to think they do though.
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Redknapp
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That's just it they do not, they like to think they do though.
mick cooper
Neil Sullivan
you really are a divisive c*** - aren't you?
all the time
chip, chip, chip
give it a rest
The Moonlit Knight
Banned
Harry isn't the best Manager in the Premiership, but he is one of the best and most likely the best we can get. If we want better we have to go outside the Premiership, and as we've seen so often with foreign managerial appointments they can be very hit and miss. Why risk that when we already have a settled structure that is capable of keeping us in the top six? We aren't going to win the league no matter who is in charge. Next season we probably won't finish top four no matter who is in charge, and no matter who sticks around. I just can't see Chelsea being this bad again, and Arsenal have the stadium to fund a squad improvement to a squad already better than ours.
Most certainly not the best we can get, I can never agree with this. Sounds defeatist and personally I see nothing wrong with going outside of England although there are number of strong contenders in the PL already.
On another note - did you genuinely think Redknapp would secure 3 consectuive Top 5 finishes when he first signed with us (based on his previous 'illustrious' career in England)? What was there to suggest he'd be as successful with us (in other words)
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
Sticks and stones :ross:
Hi Jamie, how's your lovely wife?
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lol
but seriously, with ramos, we were gonna be relegated, and the way he's transformed us is incredible.
give him a bit more time. no cl this year, so what. it was unfortunate what happened with chelsea, but end of the day we still finished fourth which is incredible.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
this here is the problem. People thinking that teams will come and lie down for us and not fight with everyhing they have.
Its an arrogance that comes with having a good team, no humility whatsoever.
QPR had upsets at their ground yet it ws us that should've gotten a point there.....and this is supposed to be fact.
its almost like people are too used to being on top of the food chain without ever being on top of that food chain in the first place.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Scara = John Terry
Lost Mango
Allan Nielsen
I agree that there is arrogance in the assumption teams will just lie down for us but on the other hadn we have known for the last two seasons now that teams will park the bus at WHL because of the way we play and yet we still have no discernable plan B or C to cope with that.
How many times do you run into a brick wall and bang your head until you work out that you need to climb over it or tunnel under it?
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Still not that easy though is it? Fact is, sometimes if a team comes to pretty much only defend then they will succeed. If it happened for Barcelona it could happen for us.
In the first half of the season, nearly all of the teams came to WHL to defend, and we broke them down and played well. Villa, West Brom etc came purerly to frustrate us but confidence was running through the squad and we broke them down. It wasn't because we had some special plan B, we simply got some inspiration from somewhere and that's really what it takes.
In the second half, confidence had taken a battering and teams still came to sit back. It was harder to break them down because that inspiration was harder to come by. I don't think Harry suddenly lost tactical knowledge on how to break teams down, I'm sure he knows 'how' to do it, but in the end the players need to have that little bit extra that makes it happen and it just wasn't forthcoming.
mick cooper
Neil Sullivan
QED
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
actually villa came to defend but they didnt really put any sort of heart and effort into it and they left lots of spce between their midfield and defensive line. odd game. that game made me think "we had arrived"...that some teams would come here to just go home and get the fixture over and done with. kind of like what teams do to united and city. they just give up he fight
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
They were pretty terrible but was it because we were just so good that day?
It's also kind of an example of how tactics are over-estimated. Harry said before the game he expected them to play 3-5-2 because of their teamsheet but he got that wrong and yet we still absolutely dominated the game from start to finish. We had the confidence and the inspiration and they had nadda.
Harrys Hotspurs
Paul Mahorn
Wow imagine a tough run of 15 games? you must be talking about a different league or perhaps even a different sport? or did you mean that a run of playing the top 14 teams all away from home? seems unlikely or at least very Harry Redknapp aka loser-esc to think that we would have a run of 15 unusually tough games... almost like it was excuse making for poor results?
We are Tottenham
Kasey Keller
look at our end of season...poor.....
lost out on CL big time!.......if s**tsea had lost to Bayern Harry might have had more of a chance of staying..
must be at least 50 / 50 he's off.........IMO...................
mick cooper
Neil Sullivan
when we play teams that come to defend and they succeed in frustrating us, we get a chorus of braying posters yelling that we are bottlers - like we put out a team that capitulated somehow. When we beat a team by any margin, the opposition were crap, suggesting that we weren't much better and only succeeded because of the ineptitude of the opposition.
In Defoe doesn't score, its because he's lazy, doesn't know the offside rule and has no movement. If he scores, he's a flat track bully who can only score from outside the box/tap ins and some knobcheese comes up with a stat that he has a poor strike rate against Brazil, Barcelona and Manure. If Adebayor doesn't score he's disinterested or has a poor first touch. If Friedel concedes a goal he's too old, Modric can't shoot, Bale should stick to the left/stop diving.................bitch, bitch, bitch
If we win a load of games, some tosser brings up a mini table of results against the top 4, if we lose a few we have to sack the manager because he's a saggy faced **** who robs teams and leaves them in the brick.
Everyone's an expert and everyone wants to outdo each other with cutting analysis of how it could be better if the manager listened to them, or the player understood that the way to get better was to follow the advice of some fat tosser with a keyboard who was last to get picked in playground games at school.
Perhaps, just perhaps one day in the lives of so many people on this board, it might dawn on you that you don't have the answers, there are no perfect solutions and that you would be a lot more happy if you actually sat back and enjoyed the good stuff and stopped trying to audition to be the next technical analyst on sky sports or MOTD.
This isn't a dig at you AS, you are one of the more level headed and open minded posters on here.
One thing is for sure the fastest way for a wound to heal is to stop poking it and reopening it.
Lets put some of this crap in the past, accept who we are (we are not one of the best/top teams in the PL, but could be 3/4 with investment) and lets look forward to a new season, new opportunities and being a season closer to New WHL.
Armchair Expert
Vedran Corluka
Norwich didnt exactly come to the lane and park the bus did they. We were brick and they beat us. The initial point was that Harry should have been able to manage our resources to wins at home over Wolves, Stoke and Norwich.
And finishing fourth wasn't incredible by the way. If you look at our squad a top four challenge is the absolute minimum requirement.
I cant fathom how some people gloss over the absolute blow up post christmas where we didnt win an away game for about 3 months, when Bale was brick and out of position, changing our tactics to overcome the threat of, er, Stevenage in the cup and Harry's complete reluctance to commit to us.
Im sure he is committed now. It's either us or back to lower mid table teams for him.
For me liverpool away was fudging nonsense. A brick Liverpool there for the taking and the manager isn't there because he to busy getting to know the old bailey. That was a brick performance that was totally avoidable if your manager wasn't up for tax charges.
5 - 1 to Chelsea in the Cup. 5 - 2 Arsenal in the league. Blew up in the last two seasons between January and may. Dont look like scoring an away goal for 1/3 of the season. And people bow before him like he's a messiah and we should be grateful he's here and cant do better. Joke.
VdV, Modric, Bale, Adebayor, Sandro, Lennon. Any manager could manage that lot to a decent finish. If they had just been played in their correct positions third was in the bag.
Anyway, I think im just repeating the same points over and over again. Just seems incredible that people think Harry is some kind infallible GHod like being.
And finishing fourth wasn't incredible by the way. If you look at our squad a top four challenge is the absolute minimum requirement.
I cant fathom how some people gloss over the absolute blow up post christmas where we didnt win an away game for about 3 months, when Bale was brick and out of position, changing our tactics to overcome the threat of, er, Stevenage in the cup and Harry's complete reluctance to commit to us.
Im sure he is committed now. It's either us or back to lower mid table teams for him.
For me liverpool away was fudging nonsense. A brick Liverpool there for the taking and the manager isn't there because he to busy getting to know the old bailey. That was a brick performance that was totally avoidable if your manager wasn't up for tax charges.
5 - 1 to Chelsea in the Cup. 5 - 2 Arsenal in the league. Blew up in the last two seasons between January and may. Dont look like scoring an away goal for 1/3 of the season. And people bow before him like he's a messiah and we should be grateful he's here and cant do better. Joke.
VdV, Modric, Bale, Adebayor, Sandro, Lennon. Any manager could manage that lot to a decent finish. If they had just been played in their correct positions third was in the bag.
Anyway, I think im just repeating the same points over and over again. Just seems incredible that people think Harry is some kind infallible GHod like being.
Armchair Expert
Vedran Corluka
I think thats called debate, Mick. It's kind of what message boards are about, giving opinions and debating things.