Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Please can you clarify as to whether this is a negative or a good thing?
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Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Disgrace that old mucker from the Beatles keeps his also a disgrace that Prince Harry received a pay off from the army while inheriting 10 million without paying tax on it.
Baleforce
Martin Peters
it does happen, between us me and the wife make almost 100k a year, we have two kids and are eligible for child benefit, we don't claim it
Baleforce
Martin Peters
sounds pretty good for a third world country
(says the half scot whose mother is from Cambaslang)
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
I certainly respect your principles - tip of the hat to you.
With a wage just below national avge but living in a costly part of the country you must around the upper eligibility limit.
With my taxpayer hat on, my individual income is not dissimilar to yours, but both my wife and I work ft, so household income us double. But I genuinely cannot see how we will be able to afford to raise a child anytime soon with rents and costs of living as they are.
( although moving out of St Albans will help I'm sure!)
Roy, I work full-time, we have a baby daughter. But then I get quite a lot in tax credits each month, and you probably aren't eligible for much in the way of tax credits because of your income (I am guessing). So maybe that's why you still qualify for some housing benefit (and where you live, rents will be higher than where I live I am also guessing).
And credit to you for not taking more than what you feel you need. It does surprise me that the benefits keep getting paid out when the income is a over £20k per year, but then high rents mean that people need to spend a larger amount of their income on somewhere to live.
As for food banks, I honestly have no idea how people have any need of them. I won't judge those that use them, if they are really that hard up then I'd rather they used them than starve. But I have known people out of work who don't need them. Myself, I guess I am in the lower percentile when it comes to income -- but in this country, you do get a decent amount of help when on a low income. I don't drink, do drugs or gamble so maybe that's it. And I don't have Sky TV (but I dunno why anybody does when we have the kick-ass torrents haha). I don't know anybody personally that uses a food bank, so it's hard to say what their situation might be.
*edit* I should say that when you are on low income AND have a child, you get quite a lot of help in this country.
And credit to you for not taking more than what you feel you need. It does surprise me that the benefits keep getting paid out when the income is a over £20k per year, but then high rents mean that people need to spend a larger amount of their income on somewhere to live.
As for food banks, I honestly have no idea how people have any need of them. I won't judge those that use them, if they are really that hard up then I'd rather they used them than starve. But I have known people out of work who don't need them. Myself, I guess I am in the lower percentile when it comes to income -- but in this country, you do get a decent amount of help when on a low income. I don't drink, do drugs or gamble so maybe that's it. And I don't have Sky TV (but I dunno why anybody does when we have the kick-ass torrents haha). I don't know anybody personally that uses a food bank, so it's hard to say what their situation might be.
*edit* I should say that when you are on low income AND have a child, you get quite a lot of help in this country.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Jarvis is only Labour candidate who could get the 4m UKIP voters to vote for him.
They are never gonna vote for Chuka are they.
Notmegov
Roman Pavlyuchenko
Bloody good point about Jarvis (he has one hell of a military record)
As for Chuka just don't see the new more left labour going for some one who is the Grandson of a Sir.
I'd be more interested in hearing the basis for the increase in use.
The only data set that I know of is from the Trussell Trust. Analysis of that as an increase in overall usage is like saying mobile phone usage increased by a factor of 100,000 in 2009 by only looking at Android sales.
That's not to say that food bank usage hasn't increased, there's just no good evidence that it has either. After all, the Trussell Trust were counting each visit as an individual user of the food bank with no allowance for repeat users (of which I suspect there would be many) .
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Most of the UKIP voters I have met would not mind voting for a black person if what came out of their mouth was common sense, which is why Priti Patel's father is held in such high esteem within the party.
Personally I would not vote for UKIP because of their views on gay marriage, wind turbines(im all for them) and the mass increase in military defence spending they want. But despite a few nut jobs that the media like to highlight the majority of openly supportive people of UKIP I actually found to be tolerant and nice people. Just had enough of the EU(what attracted me to them in the first place) and others who thought immigration was/is to high.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
Nothing that has not already been debated in this thread, been there got the tee shirt and I am not getting into a pointless debate with you over this. You have your opinion and I have mine and neither one of us will change that. And to be honest after the rubbish you have said about food banks I do not see any point in doing so.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
I didnt mean they're not gonna vote for him because he's black. I meant the guy has come out today and said the Labour needs to target the middle classes that have voted Tory! He is making no attempt to appeal to Labours neglected core working class poor. The guy is wrong.
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ng-power-is-to-recognise-the-mistakes-we-made
"we spoke to our core voters but not to aspirational, middle-class ones"
I think it's harsher benefit sanctions.
The thing about being ever harsher when it comes to benefit sanctions is that it will punish the most vulnerable before anybody else. The people who are playing the game will figure out what they need to do to get around any rule changes etc. whilst vulnerable people (who by their nature tend to be not good with money) will get caught up in rule changes and lose money that they depend on, even if it's just temporarily. Add those 'quick-quid' type lenders into the mix and you end up with people in a mess who then end up at food banks.
This is my best guess, because I don't know anybody who actually uses one (and I'm not too far removed from the demographic).
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Jarvis has apparently removed himself from the Leadership race, saying it's not the right time for him and his family. Apparently, Tories are breathing a sigh of relief.
Chuka; erm, wasn't the problem with Labour and their campaign was that they were TOO left already?!? Surely the new direction for Labour would be to become more appealing to the centre-ground (as many commentators are already saying)?
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Erm, they are saying they need to appeal to a broader spectrum of the electorate. I don't see how this means they are making no attempt to appeal to the poor working class. Labour appealed to this group and it wasn't enough on Thursday to get them elected (perhaps because not enough of them actually vote...)
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
It would seem from this BBC link from last year that the Trussel Trust DO account for repeat visitors: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27032642