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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

ricky2tricky4city said:
Jeez...I've always failed to see the value of this....and it just gets worse as the price goes up and the completion date gets pushed out.

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I know a couple of guys who have been working as contractors for years on this, and they are so not busy. Seems like a crazy failure to even have a basic idea of success metrics ffs
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
That's because ultimately there's one thing directing (running) the country....and Streeting is more palatable (controllable) to them.
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You meaning the bond markets?

I think even this last few days has been really interesting, because while Starmer has not been out there pounding the table with his arguments, once he starts getting these challengers, they start getting scrutiny and you understand more the trade offs Starmer has been making.

For instance, Burnham has already been trying to row back his ‘we’ve gotta get over this thing about being in hock to the bond markets’ comments. If he becomes PM, he’s going to be hamstrung by the same things Starmer has been, and he can choose to raise taxes even further but overall, I think people will start to appreciate more why Starmer is in the position he is in if and when he gets deposed.

Starmer still should have made some better arguments around this stuff, but maybe he’s judged that the only way to hold together a fractured coalition like the Labour Party is to not keep effectively airing what would be their disagreements in public.

It’s also why I quite like the idea of Streeting. Because I feel like his proposition is largely carrying on the Starmer manifesto but by being a better communicator. Burnham is promising all sorts of new ways of doing things, which is disingenuous for two reasons. A he should really call a GE if he wants to do those things and B he’s likely going to realise once in power the bond markets won’t let him do a bunch of that stuff now anyway.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Jeez...I've always failed to see the value of this....and it just gets worse as the price goes up and the completion date gets pushed out.

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Trains will be obsolete long before this is complete. This is a 1980s project. With pooled self-driving cars, you won't need transport hubs in the future - everything will just direct go door-to-door. If anything it should probably be converted into a freight line.
 
Looks like Randy Andy has a couple of child rape charges coming his way (Guardian now confirming they relate to the Windsor Estate). I hope he dosn't manage to suicide himself out of his disgrace too
 
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SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
You meaning the bond markets?

I think even this last few days has been really interesting, because while Starmer has not been out there pounding the table with his arguments, once he starts getting these challengers, they start getting scrutiny and you understand more the trade offs Starmer has been making.

For instance, Burnham has already been trying to row back his ‘we’ve gotta get over this thing about being in hock to the bond markets’ comments. If he becomes PM, he’s going to be hamstrung by the same things Starmer has been, and he can choose to raise taxes even further but overall, I think people will start to appreciate more why Starmer is in the position he is in if and when he gets deposed.

Starmer still should have made some better arguments around this stuff, but maybe he’s judged that the only way to hold together a fractured coalition like the Labour Party is to not keep effectively airing what would be their disagreements in public.

It’s also why I quite like the idea of Streeting. Because I feel like his proposition is largely carrying on the Starmer manifesto but by being a better communicator. Burnham is promising all sorts of new ways of doing things, which is disingenuous for two reasons. A he should really call a GE if he wants to do those things and B he’s likely going to realise once in power the bond markets won’t let him do a bunch of that stuff now anyway.
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For Starmer see Levy, highly competent administrator dealing with a unique set of constraints.

Like Levy, I could see everything immediately going to brick if Starmer is replaced.
 
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