Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[glasgowspur]

No one does any job in politics alone though at any level and there are people who have worse track records than him (he was decent in his health role dealing with swine flu too) whereas Boris was making mistakes that impacted relations with Iran. So if we are not looking for people who have done good jobs then where are we looking?

Don't get me wrong the difference between Burnham and Boris is night and day, I would have more trust in Burnham than I ever had in Boris.
If ever there was a man promoted above his abilities it was Boris. It's pretty frightening that not only did so few people see that, but no other party could put up a better candidate
If Burnham had a solid cabinet that could guide him and maybe take a more balanced approach then I could see a decent government forming.
However I don't think between all the parties a good cabinet could be formed, Nevermind one from a single party.
The depth of the talent in politics is puddle deep.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Thats cool and I get that

But if you talk about track records of doing good things and that being a shop window for bigger jobs, then he is high up the list. He is certainly better than what we have across all parties IMO, although thats a low bar admittedly.

Until all parties come together and admit to the electorate that the UK is sleepwalking its way to bankruptcy we’ll continue to get leaders who put getting elected ahead of the country’s future.

 

[glasgowspur]

Until all parties come together and admit to the electorate that the UK is sleepwalking its way to bankruptcy we’ll continue to get leaders who put getting elected ahead of the country’s future.

The public do not want to hear it though.
It really should be obvious to anyone with even the merest hint of the real world.

 

[Mikey10]

Not only a pathetic excuse for a PM, but also a pathetic excuse for a human being. Useless clam.

Boris Johnson took four days off as NHS warned Covid could ‘overwhelm’ system

Files show then PM was walking dog, riding motorbike and hosting guests as pandemic planning stalled in ‘lost month’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Grays_1890]

The public do not want to hear it though.
It really should be obvious to anyone with even the merest hint of the real world.

I am all for political reform, taking the best from all parties to create a super party of those that are chosen to represent their voters. Its 2025, we should be in a position where we take the best ideas across all parties and work towards a better country than dismissing them out of hand because of party bias

 

[Gutter Boy]

Until all parties come together and admit to the electorate that the UK is sleepwalking its way to bankruptcy we’ll continue to get leaders who put getting elected ahead of the country’s future.

So agree a cross-party consensus on taxing the 450 people who own half the country's wealth?

 

[scaramanga]

If you think any kind of 'balancing the books' has gone on for 10-15 years then you haven't been paying attention.
We have been in MMT mode, a non declared policy of any party resident in no.11. Naturally, theyve made a pigs ear of it, and very little to show for it (for most anyway).

(Although tbf COVID cost them a packet if you consider not just the amount they were dishing out but the reduction in what they were receiving)

I wouldn't say we're that far yet, but the printing and spending is pretty fudging scary. The addiction all recent governments have had to spending is incredibly dangerous.

COVID was a massive fudge up. I don't believe the public would have accepted lock downs if the govt had honestly explained up front how much it would cost and how long we'd be paying for it.

 

[johnola]

Has anyone read it?

Does it report why passenger air travel was allowed to continue?

Perhaps not the biggest corruption but one that frustrated the hell out of me at the time.

I’m sure eventually those who received furlough moneys will get some sort of adjustment to their state pension entitlement.

 

[glasgowspur]

I am all for political reform, taking the best from all parties to create a super party of those that are chosen to represent their voters. Its 2025, we should be in a position where we take the best ideas across all parties and work towards a better country than dismissing them out of hand because of party bias

Too many vote for a party regardless of what they do, it's "what the party stands for" apparently.
Well what you stand for is irrelevant if what you do is brick.
First reform I would implement is that you can't vote for the same party in any more than two consecutive elections.
Your vote is on loan, it's not owned.
The tories and Labour have taken their core vote for granted and it is turning on them, and nobody with any sense likes where that turn could lead us.

 

[glasgowspur]

Has anyone read it?

Does it report why passenger air travel was allowed to continue?

Perhaps not the biggest corruption but one that frustrated the hell out of me at the time.

I’m sure eventually those who received furlough moneys will get some sort of adjustment to their state pension entitlement.

Our factory never missed an hour's production during Covid, while the vast majority of the country were getting paid to sit and watch Netflix, maybe we'll get a bonus added to our pensions.
Won't hold my breath.

 

[Grays_1890]

Has anyone read it?

Does it report why passenger air travel was allowed to continue?

Perhaps not the biggest corruption but one that frustrated the hell out of me at the time.

I’m sure eventually those who received furlough moneys will get some sort of adjustment to their state pension entitlement.

Freight

 

[Gutter Boy]

Too many vote for a party regardless of what they do, it's "what the party stands for" apparently.
Well what you stand for is irrelevant if what you do is brick.
First reform I would implement is that you can't vote for the same party in any more than two consecutive elections.
Your vote is on loan, it's not owned.
The tories and Labour have taken their core vote for granted and it is turning on them, and nobody with any sense likes where that turn could lead us.

Might be difficult, as private voting is an absolute bastion of any democracy

 

[kb 1984]

Too many vote for a party regardless of what they do, it's "what the party stands for" apparently.
Well what you stand for is irrelevant if what you do is brick.
First reform I would implement is that you can't vote for the same party in any more than two consecutive elections.
Your vote is on loan, it's not owned.
The tories and Labour have taken their core vote for granted and it is turning on them, and nobody with any sense likes where that turn could lead us.

In theory that sounds great but if you can't vote for your preferred candidate you might decide not to vote at all. Then you no longer have democratic elections.